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post #1471 of 2149

no he s talking about David Cronenberghs movie , which got the Palme D or at Cannes sometimes in the mid nineties as far as i remember. 

 

Edit: @curiouscharles beat me to it

While i dont see much how the collection is actually channeling that influence, and I would almost dismiss it as grotesque or a display of bad taste, well some might argue thats exactly the kind of critics the films received from its detractors.

I kinda liked the movie due to its very weird / dreamy vibe (and gross black sense of humor)...


Edited by Auximenes - 8/8/16 at 12:59am
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I saw that movie in middle school or something because apparently my friend heard there was a lot of nudity in it and we didn't understand a THING that happened
post #1473 of 2149

@nicelynice ah your friend must have been quite disappointed

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I don't usually post in this thread but I am a big Cronenberg fan. I re-watch Crash at least once a year. The copy I have is extremely graphic though, there are gratuitous, extended sex scenes that border on pornography. You guys might have watched a cut version. The plot is limited but I appreciate the uncomfortable viewing experience and find new perspectives and symbolism with each viewing. I think it is worth a watch if you want a film that makes you think a bit more than your standard Hollywood paint-by-the-numbers marketing vehicle.

 

My take on the film (Click to show)
Crash depicts a person's nature to rapidly normalise new experiences and the path it can take one down in pursuit of continual stimulation. One's health, well-being and even life take a lesser priority to this obsession. An important line in the film is "Maybe the next time" which the wife says in the beginning and the husband says in the end, the former referencing being caught in the act of fornication in public and the latter a fatal car crash. The fatal crash could be any transformational experience that results in an ultimate transition that one cannot reverse. The main characters are teetering on the edge of that point of no return, but for James (the husband) that line is constantly shifting further and further towards death. Depending on your own experiences, this could be interpreted as an obsession with pornography, drug experimentation, infidelity, even "extreme sports".

 

I can see several references to the film in this clothing collection; the jagged, asymmetrical lines in particular remind me of the wardrobes that Denise Cronenberg (Crash costume designer) designed for several of the female car crash victims who wore braces, dressed in black and had bondage-like accessories. The opening of that leather jacket also reminds me of the large leg wound that was on one of the female crash fetishists beneath her bracing, that James eventually penetrates in a car.

post #1475 of 2149

yeah i saw the cut version unfortunately... I mean, the nudity/sex are not showed in a typically sexy/arousing way (though that is probably very subjective !!!) - hence my comment about the guy who was hoping for a good ole softcore movie session.

Its awesome that you can see such literal references to the movie in the clothes. It probably takes some psycho who s watched the movie over and over to see that :D

Now, @Rais, pls tell me you also watch A Serbian Film every year on Christmas Eve with your nephews and nieces.

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Originally Posted by curiouscharles View Post

nope, pretty sure it's this cult film:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115964/

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no he s talking about David Cronenberghs movie , which got the Palme D or at Cannes sometimes in the mid nineties as far as i remember. 

Edit: @curiouscharles
 beat me to it
tbh, i find it a bit pompous and contrived to pick yet another art movie from Cannes and call it the source of inspiration for a seemingly uninspired collection.
While i dont see how the collection is actually channeling that influence, and I would almost dismiss it as grotesque or a display of bad taste, well some might argue thats exactly the kind of critics the films received from its detractors.
I kinda liked the movie due to its very weird / dreamy vibe (and gross black sense of humor)...

ok i feel slightly better, never seen that film but the 2004 crash wouldn't exactly be a good movie to influence a clothing line
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Rais post made me reconsider and look for more pics of DB Fw16-17, and found those pics below. Indeed, the link is more obvious in those :

 

 

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This is the leg wound that I think is being referenced in some of the design elements.

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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Rais post made me reconsider and look for more pics of DB Fw16-17, and found those pics below. Indeed, the link is more obvious in those : Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)








thought that wheelchair pic was from Carol
post #1480 of 2149

yes its older , from when DB was at CCP maybe? It seems the inspiration from Crash is not new or not specifically related to that last season from which some pics were posted earlier ?

Actually the clash of organic/inorganic bodies could be an underlying theme in a number of designers that are discussed in this thread.

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This piece is most evocative of the film from what I've seen so far. Even less wearable than CCP's invisi-seam but whatever!

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yes its older , from when DB was at CCP maybe? It seems the inspiration from Crash is not new or not specifically related to that last season from which some pics were posted earlier ?
Actually the clash of organic/inorganic bodies could be an underlying theme in a number of designers that are discussed in this thread.

oh btw i looked up crash on IMDB, i saw parts of that movie a million years ago in the 90s, i do remember it had a lot of nudity but i only watched some scenes. Honestly unless Deepti was in a crash idk why use that movie as inspiration.
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This piece is most evocative of the film from what I've seen so far. Even less wearable than CCP's invisi-seam but whatever!

idk just kinda looks like someone took jagged shears to a jacket
post #1483 of 2149

This can't be the first collection to be influenced by JG Ballard, right? Any others?

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Was very concerned when ordering this from Persuade as I've never owned any Harnden headwear. Only tried on a Haymaker at IF and they were ridiculously unwearable (not to mention $850 for an unlined straw hat). But I'm pretty impressed with this Summit Cap. The elastic in back seems constructed pretty well and the wire in the brim--to help keep my "fresh off the hobo train car look" in check--was a welcome bonus. Persuade was a dream to work with again (they helped me with my GBS black shirt a while back). Definitely worth hitting them up for whatever you may need.

It's these little things that help me prepare for the cooler weather.

Couple more pics:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Edited by AlexanderTG - 8/8/16 at 12:31pm
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This can't be the first collection to be influenced by JG Ballard, right? Any others?

I dont know but a lot of CCP staples (prosthetic elbow blazer, arthritic gloves, prosthetic ankle boots, u-sole drip sneakers, etc) would definitely not look out of place in his SF works. 

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