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Yea and your a fat ass corporate shill whose job isn't challenging enough to preclude him spending his days picking meaningless piss fights in an effort to convince himself he's some kind of internet badass . This is an opinion 

This may all be true but it doesn't make what I said above either wrong nor irrelevant. You insulted me first so don't get your panties in a wad when I take a swing back, gramps.
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Would have been more effective if there were millions of them in the picture.
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This may all be true but it doesn't make what I said above either wrong nor irrelevant. You insulted me first so don't get your panties in a wad when I take a swing back, gramps.

Well I do credit you for being able to take a punch even tho delivered by a feeble old septuagenarian

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gramps.

 

Let's be real, both of you are gramps. 

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I'm curious why you Islam is the problem people don't just blame Arabs... or is that too racist and you feel more comfortable going after religions? 

 

Did you really just ask that question? I blame Islam because Islam is the problem.

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The term racist has lost what little meaning it had to begin with . Its like frat boys calling people gay

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Any rational arguments for why America should prioritize Syrian refugees over Central and South American and African refugees?
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Originally Posted by FLMountainMan View Post

Any rational arguments for why America should prioritize Syrian refugees over Central and South American and African refugees?


Whether you consider these rational or not, I don't know but:

  1. Syrians are the largest single refugee community
  2. They are (probably) the most educated on average 
  3. Syria is the most dangerous place on the planet so there is an urgency in getting people out
  4. Really good fried chicken
  5. There are already large Levantine populations in the US (see Paterson NJ, SE Brookyln, etc)

 

Speaking of all of this, do any of you old people remember what the attitude in the West was when Lebanese were fleeing their civil war? Alan? 

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South/central america.

• Hot women
• Really good chicken, feijoada, burritos, coffee etc. etc.
• Wealthy
• There's already a large community in LA, Miami etc.
• Brazilian dessert pizza
• Know the language
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We really shouldn't separate refugees from any other immigrant group. Treat them all equally. Everybody is running away from some shitty despotic government, that's why they're leaving in the first place. Just because one of your dead kids washed up on shore and made the news doesn't mean you should get priority over anybody else.
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Speaking of all of this, do any of you old people remember what the attitude in the West was when Lebanese were fleeing their civil war? Alan? 

It was very good everywhere to be honest.

It was a very different case i guess than now.

1- Maybe the image of arabs wasnt as bad as it is now.
2- There was no sudden mass influx of refugees. Most those who left simply went through the regular channels of applying for visas/work/school. The civil war here was sporadic both in terms of timing and location (lots of periods of relative calm and lots of areas that were left untouched)
3- The lebanese were always emigrating before the war since the turn of the century so most of those who left had some kind of family or help abroad which helped them integrate. As far as i know it wasnt thousands arriving and asking for help from others/government. They were just like anyone who relocates countries
4- In general most Lebanese were/are very educated and lots of their countrymen were very successful abroad which helped them as well, in south america for example and canada and france. I seriously think that as an individual very few are smarter/more successful than a lebanese, but as a community theyre a complete failure.
5- The west at some point was pushing and encouraging lebanese christians in particular to leave, and their community was struggling for them to stay. The US view at some point was that christians would leave here and relocate in the west and palestinians get naturalized here.
6- Due to the french influence and christian presence and muslim lebanese emigrants, most lebanese are easily integrated into a western society. They probably watch more american tv than lebanese ones here.


Australia for some reason accepted lots of ex-militia men which made for a shitty lebanese community there, Canada has a very large and successful lebanese presence, France as well.

South america and Africa are full of very rich lebanese businessmen.
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  1. Syria is the most dangerous place on the planet so there is an urgency in getting people out

not to get into a useless one-upmanship, and Syria may be bad and getting worse, but I really think Somalia is hell on Earth. Much of what happens in the horn of Africa is not even really given the light of day. Just how bad does it have to be to consider war-torn Uganda a better option ...
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  1. There are already large Levantine populations in the US (see Paterson NJ, SE Brookyln, etc)

Incidentally, Trump has been talking about how the Arabs across the river were cheering when 9/11 happened, he saw it with his own eyes.
Edited by the shah - 11/22/15 at 4:22pm
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once you let in muslins ... rayon, chenille, chintz, shantung, and omg, taffeta are sure to follow eek.gif



let's keep america pure fing02[1].gif
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Originally Posted by FLMountainMan View Post

Any rational arguments for why America should prioritize Syrian refugees over Central and South American and African refugees?


Whether you consider these rational or not, I don't know but:

  1. Syrians are the largest single refugee community
  2. They are (probably) the most educated on average 
  3. Syria is the most dangerous place on the planet so there is an urgency in getting people out
  4. Really good fried chicken
  5. There are already large Levantine populations in the US (see Paterson NJ, SE Brookyln, etc)

 

Speaking of all of this, do any of you old people remember what the attitude in the West was when Lebanese were fleeing their civil war? Alan? 


I have never in my lifetime (70) experienced this sort of attitude on this scale but I also do not remember any immigrant population that potentially posed a physical threat outside of typical petty crime . There was little grumbling about the Vietnamese and Hmungs but they assimilated pretty quickly . We must live in some sort of bubble In northern California because I have not talked to a single person throughout this crisis who felt the Syrian refugees presented any real threat at all . Everyone in California is a refugee of some sort. We like it that way

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This poll has been referenced all over the place in the last week. No idea how credible this polling group is.

http://english.dohainstitute.org/content/6a355a64-5237-4d7a-b957-87f6b1ceba9b

According to this, 13% of Syrian refugees have a positive or somewhat positive view of ISIS. I think it's safe to assume at least half of those with a positive view of ISIS wouldn't admit it, so if we are to rely on this agency's word I would think 25% would be a more realistic number.
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