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Please read the Quran and the blood-soaked history of Islam.

 

Why don't we talk about Leviticus? 

 

You would fit right in with ISIS. Telling the world who are and aren't actual Muslims. 

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That pesky Intelligensia 

post #678 of 2656
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That article is pretty bad, and even Haykel has gone on record stating how he was misrepresented in plenty of quotes. I assume of course there's not much I can say that would truly change anybody's mind.

I'm plenty open to having my mind changed but I just need to know if ISIS is Islamic or un-Islamic to start off with.
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That article is pretty bad, and even Haykel has gone on record stating how he was misrepresented in plenty of quotes. I assume of course there's not much I can say that would truly change anybody's mind.

I'm plenty open to having my mind changed but I just need to know if ISIS is Islamic or un-Islamic to start off with.


Depends on who you talk to,how you define it and most of all what your agenda is

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If you're interested , you can check this out
http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/
post #681 of 2656
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Telling the world who are and aren't actual Muslims. 
He must be Scottish.
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If you're interested , you can check this out
http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/

Completely no snark here but point 6 caught me eye. How is "the innocent" being defined? I'll have more questions but I think this might be a major one.
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He must be Scottish.

no true Scotsman would say that
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Completely no snark here but point 6 caught me eye. How is "the innocent" being defined? I'll have more questions but I think this might be a major one.

That's a very valid question, I'm probably not qualified to discus a lot of this but an innocent is somebody who is a non-combatant. (Now what Isis does to get around it is claim that these are indeed not innocents because they elect their governments to represent them in everything which I don't think makes sense.)

Maybe for the sake of staying on topic we can discuss elsewhere redface.gif
Edited by the shah - 11/14/15 at 6:00pm
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Yea but Islam is a problem, there are plenty of stupid things written in quran that people take literally - like to stone ppl for adultery or kill gays
many Muslims believe this shit unfortunately, this is a problem with any ideology it can make good people do bad things.

in fact all 3 major religions have stoning for adultery in their scripture but only Muslims still take it seriously, probably because most Jews are atheists and most Christians are hypocrites. I wish more Muslim communities would follow either of these paths.

The imams who preach this nonsens and the mosques, who let them, combined with the migrants, who keep themselves in a victim/leech role are the problems, not the religion in it self.
post #686 of 2656
I dont understand how anyone is surprised.

This is simply a repeat of what has happened 1000 times before.

Alqaeda in afghanistan - 9/11

Saddam against Iran - Kuwait

Isis against assad and iran - this shit
post #687 of 2656
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This is the first ISIS attack outside of areas where it has a presence. 

Are we really sure this is ISIS? On its face, it does seem more like AQ. Also, AQ doesn't claim credit. People seem to think that ISIS claim of responsibility doesn't seem all that detailed or prepared, like they didn't know it was going to happen either.
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Does it matter?
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Does it matter?

I think it does because who is actually responsible will impact the created narratives of many political actors.
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