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post #1876 of 2656
Can someone on the ground there comment on the pig-hat arrest? If remotely accurate that video is actually pretty disturbing.
post #1877 of 2656
Whether it was provocation, it is and remains a pig hat.
post #1878 of 2656
Personally I believe anyone wearing a pig hat should be arrested
post #1879 of 2656
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Personally I believe anyone wearing a pig hat should be arrested

post #1880 of 2656
Yeah and maybe that too
post #1881 of 2656
Interesting that the New York Times would print this:

The Sexual Misery of the Arab World


ORAN, Algeria — AFTER Tahrir came Cologne. After the square came sex. The Arab revolutions of 2011 aroused enthusiasm at first, but passions have since waned. Those movements have come to look imperfect, even ugly: For one thing, they have failed to touch ideas, culture, religion or social norms, especially the norms relating to sex. Revolution doesn’t mean modernity.

The attacks on Western women by Arab migrants in Cologne, Germany, on New Year’s Eve evoked the harassment of women in Tahrir Square itself during the heady days of the Egyptian revolution. The reminder has led people in the West to realize that one of the great miseries plaguing much of the so-called Arab world, and the Muslim world more generally, is its sick relationship with women. In some places, women are veiled, stoned and killed; at a minimum, they are blamed for sowing disorder in the ideal society. In response, some European countries have taken to producing guides of good conduct to refugees and migrants.

Kamel Daoud
Islam, Maghreb, Middle East and terrorism.
البؤس الجنسيّ في العالم العربيّ
La misère sexuelle du monde arabe
Daech en guerre contre Noël
L’Arabie saoudite, un Daesh qui a réussi
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Sex is a complex taboo, arising, in places like Algeria, Tunisia, Syria or Yemen, out of the ambient conservatism’s patriarchal culture, the Islamists’ new, rigorist codes and the discreet puritanism of the region’s various socialisms. That makes a good combination for obstructing desire or guilt-tripping and marginalizing those who feel any. And it’s a far cry from the delicious licentiousness of the writings of the Muslim golden age, like Sheikh Nafzawi’s “The Perfumed Garden of Sensual Delight,” which tackled eroticism and the Kama Sutra without any hang-ups.

Today sex is a great paradox in many countries of the Arab world: One acts as though it doesn’t exist, and yet it determines everything that’s unspoken. Denied, it weighs on the mind by its very concealment. Although women are veiled, they are at the center of our connections, exchanges and concerns.

Women are a recurrent theme in daily discourse, because the stakes they personify — for manliness, honor, family values — are great. In some countries, they are allowed access to the public sphere only if they renounce their bodies: To let them go uncovered would be to uncover the desire that the Islamist, the conservative and the idle youth feel and want to deny. Women are seen as a source of destabilization — short skirts trigger earthquakes, some say — and are respected only when defined by a property relationship, as the wife of X or the daughter of Y.



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/14/opinion/sunday/the-sexual-misery-of-the-arab-world.html?WT.mc_id=2016-KWP-AUD_DEV&WT.mc_ev=click&ad-keywords=AUDDEVREMARK&kwp_0=107101&kwp_4=513946&kwp_1=277654&_r=0
post #1882 of 2656
Turkey has arrested 10 people for attending the memorial of a suicide bomber and the primeminister calls attending treason. I wish european politicians would say something similar, as 1500 people showed up to the memorial service for the terrorist in Copenhagen.
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post #1884 of 2656
The whole lot should have been arrested and deported.
post #1885 of 2656
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The whole lot should have been arrested and deported.

Willing to bet some of them were born in their current country.
post #1886 of 2656
Question is: Why such demonstration never took place in USA? Is it fear? Is that what it takes, punitive laws and police state eager to incarcerate? Patriot Act?
This is the dilemma EU will face eventually. Is EU willing to model itself more after US under this islamist pressure?
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Question is: Why such demonstration never took place in USA? Is it fear? Is that what it takes, punitive laws and police state eager to incarcerate? Patriot Act?
This is the dilemma EU will face eventually. Is EU willing to model itself more after US under this islamist pressure?
Obamacare
post #1888 of 2656
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


Willing to bet some of them were born in their current country.

99% of them have dual citizenships.
post #1889 of 2656
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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Question is: Why such demonstration never took place in USA? Is it fear? Is that what it takes, punitive laws and police state eager to incarcerate? Patriot Act?
This is the dilemma EU will face eventually. Is EU willing to model itself more after US under this islamist pressure?

There are a lot fewer Muslims in the US, for one thing. There are only three million in the country, compared to 40-50 million in Europe.


I don't think the US is better off in this regard because of punitive policing. Muslims in the US still have freedom of speech. We might be listening to phone calls, but people aren't going to jail for saying bin Laden is a hero.

Other factors: We don't tend to have Muslim ghettos that never integrate. I'd imagine that more of the Muslims that came here are moderates and came here for opportunity, rather than just fleeing whatever hellhole country there were in for a welfare check in Europe.
post #1890 of 2656
People aren't getting thrown in jail for condoning Bin Laden alone in Europe either, they get thrown in jail for condoning terror and animating other people to commit terror.

I would be surprised if all of the people who attend rallies like that are already on the security services watch lists.
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