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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

Its not really broken, but yes, it's called democracy, if you don't want corruption vote on someone, who is going to do something about it or even better become a politician. If you can't get a job create one.

How many of those things you have personally "fixed"? You sound like deluded Western consumer who feels he can take credit for the accident of his birth in the country that is not entirely fucked up. Koodos to you sir for maintaining Denmark by doing whatever that is you r doing. And double bonus to you for being born in Scandinavia instead of Lesotho or Albania
post #1682 of 2656
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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

How many of those things you have personally "fixed"? You sound like deluded Western consumer who feels he can take credit for the accident of his birth in the country that is not entirely fucked up. Koodos to you sir for maintaining Denmark by doing whatever that is you r doing. And double bonus to you for being born in Scandinavia instead of Lesotho or Albania

I think you're being just a tad too literal.
post #1683 of 2656
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How many of those things you have personally "fixed"? You sound like deluded Western consumer who feels he can take credit for the accident of his birth in the country that is not entirely fucked up. Koodos to you sir for maintaining Denmark by doing whatever that is you r doing. And double bonus to you for being born in Scandinavia instead of Lesotho or Albania

You can't fix it, if isn't broken, but giving up because of basic shit and not wanting to even try to change it, isn't going to solve anything. Scandinavia has what it has because people worked for it and made it happen, it didn't come walking in through the door. People didn't just go to another country and say ours is broken, can we piggy back of you have done.

Arab spring failed to a large degree, but people actually tried to make a change and creating a better life for themselves instead of just saying fuck it. China has also started working on their corruption issues and so has a multitude of african countries.

The Balkan war was completely internal (besides UN peace keeping troops) and sectarian, so the population has formed the society, if they want it to change they have to create it and not just run away. The Balkans are also safe, so they are not eligible for asylum, if they want to migrate they have to apply for a visa.
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Scharding, AUSTRIA (Ekstra Bladet): In an attempt to get Denmark and other Nordic countries claiming many of the young men here in the tent that they are needy Syrian war refugees.

Ekstra Bladet could earlier talks about how several North Africans openly told that they are going to Denmark for the money.

But more are also aware that it is basically only Syrian refugees who can manage to get asylum in Denmark.

For example, said the 27-year-old Moroccan Ben Walid yesterday numerous times to Ekstra Bladet that he was acids and would have protection in Denmark.

The claim to be Syrian refugee he argued, despite the fact that a person of authority, a Red Cross representative and even his Moroccan comrades said he was Moroccan, as German police have ascertained and used as a reason to reject him.

See broadcast commentary of the article, which Ekstra Bladet confronts him with his lie.

- He is Moroccan. Many of the Moroccans and Algerians claiming to be Syrians to get permanent residence in Western Europe, says the former Iraqi policeman Muhbemn Khlefa, who works as an interpreter and social worker for the Austrian Red Cross tent.

- I test their language skills and their knowledge of Syria and Iraq, he explains.
post #1685 of 2656
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I test their language skills and their knowledge of Syria and Iraq, he explains.

 

North African "immigrants" may be assholes, but they're not stupid. I'm pretty sure they'll have the Syrian dialect internalized soon and prepare for questions re: Syria and Iraq.

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Will we see or how soon we will see financial repercussions of this immigration wave? Will that help Conservative right to capture even more votes, especially votes from those semi-liberal undecided idiots?
It seems to me inevitable consequence of this shitwave is rising taxes on earners rising fees on many things including road tolls, energy, parking fines, speeding and other civic infractions. The Socialists governments have to get extra cash from somewhere and aside from simply printing more of it why not charge those who have something left?
I am hoping that the European Socialists will go to their favorite higher taxes knee-jerk route to put a nail into their political coffins.
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We have a conservative right government at the moment and the left and EU spends all their time complaining that, they are actually doing something to stop financial migrants.

I said this before, but with an unemployment rate of 50% for nonwestern immigrants (the national rate is 7%), they are never going to become assets to the workforce and statistic numbers are saying they are costing the society somewhere in the realm of 5-30 billion dollars a year, in wellfare etc., that is a lot of money, which could have been used better. One County spends 300 million dollars a year on interpreters alone.

3 out of 10 companies a screaming for workers including dishwashers etc., but people won't get up of their ass, because wallfare is too high.
post #1688 of 2656
Conservative right in a name only? What is conservative about them?
I know in Finland where I lived for a few years Conservative right government means they are enamoured with every stink that comes from American political discourse: they want to cut benefits , raise retirement age, invite more immigrants, join NATO, etc, etc. That is "Conservative" agenda per US model of conservatism which is : rob the poor to give to the rich. Except it is more organic in US as it comes from the fact that government is just a conduit of policies cooked up by US oligarchy. In Europe it does not have that direct relationship between big money and national government ,so it is just transparent monkey-see-monkey-do. EU "conservative" politicians (especially those under 40) are simply copy-cating American talking points. Not surprisingly it became almost fashionable among European upper middle class to support these wanna-be "Republicans".
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The first is correct, but it makes sense as we have too many people government support, so it makes sense to make it less desirable not to work. Retirement age is fluid from 60-70. Also much like the UK, we are trying to get less EU. They have also recently lowered car tax from 180% to 150%.

The highest earners, $58k and over have an effective income tax of 50% with everything earned over 58k being taxed with 60% income tax, so they are not really robbing anyone, but making it more desirable to put an extra effort in. Sadly the socialists have got in to their head that inequality is automatically bad, even though the poorest part of society won't be worse off, due to increased tax revenue.

They have also purposely made the country less desirable for economic migrants, who's sole desire is to come for free to them health care and sit on welfare, not speaking the language.


http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2016/01/14/denmark-intv-amanpour-jakob-ellemann-jensen.cnn
Edited by Find Finn - 1/15/16 at 4:20am
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Europeans should consider moving to north Africa, Turkey, Pakistan, and Syria. A reverse colonization if you will. There are fortunes to be made. Go East, Young Man.
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South America is probably better, industrializing farming in Brazil $$$$$$$$.

If we moved to north africa, there should be a pole on how long it would for the "refugees" to return to their native land.
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I'd previously realized the numbers in Germany were huge (1M per year 2015, likely the same in 2016) but Ross Douthat makes an interesting back of the envelope point:

Most of the migrants men under 30. Native Germans under 30 are already a small cohort, and themselves have very low fertility. When Muhammad starts importing wives, and starts reproducing at 3x the fertility of Germans, the next generation of these people could easily become 40% of their generational cohort.

You really can't understate the ramifications of what Merkel has unleashed.
post #1693 of 2656
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post

I'd previously realized the numbers in Germany were huge (1M per year 2015, likely the same in 2016) but Ross Douthat makes an interesting back of the envelope point:

Most of the migrants men under 30. Native Germans under 30 are already a small cohort, and themselves have very low fertility. When Muhammad starts importing wives, and starts reproducing at 3x the fertility of Germans, the next generation of these people could easily become 40% of their generational cohort.

You really can't understate the ramifications of what Merkel has unleashed.

That's kind of the implication of so much immigration into the West in general. Think of the US for instance. What's the fastest growing demographic group? What % of under 30 folks in the US are part of said demographic group? What demographic group has the lowest fertility rate (other than Asians)?
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This is happening everywhere in Europe, in 2100 there's going to be 1/3 native Norwegians in Norway.

We get more migrants every year, than new born babies.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35326090

Immigrant men banned from public pool.
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