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It's interesting how some people think that European/Western society is the greatest in the world but at the same time liable to collapse under the pressure of a few thousand refugees. 

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It's interesting how some people think that European/Western society is the greatest in the world but at the same time liable to collapse under the pressure of a few thousand refugees. 

It's like the fastest of thoroughbred horses: the best but very fragile.
post #1293 of 2656
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It's like the fastest of thoroughbred horses: the best but very fragile.


I don't know if that is the case. I see American society more as a clydesdale or shire. 

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People drive 70mph bumper to bumper with half the other drivers texting or putting on makeup then they go home and cower in fear that some terrorist is gonna burst into their living room and machine gun em'

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I don't know if that is the case. I see American society more as a clydesdale or shire. 

I was just kidding. American "society" doesn't really exist, and never has, or at least in the context of those that are worried it's going to get OMG RUINED!
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Wha?!?! Everybody knows what a Amurican is

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You don't have to be part of the group that "made the most money" to have money. What I'm saying is if I had kids, since I've busted my ass and met with a very minor bit of success in life, I would hate knowing that odds are 80% my kids would not benefit from this in terms of their potential for success.

If you have a household income north of a 150k and you can afford sending your children to an above average school. I actually think you will be better off in the US.

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It's interesting how some people think that European/Western society is the greatest in the world but at the same time liable to collapse under the pressure of a few thousand refugees. 

"a few thousand" we have received 25k this far this year, which is 0,5% of the entire population, with family reunifications, we will hit 50k, having 50k new mouths to feed, which isn't going to earn the money themselves, means the money has to come from somewhere else. In most places this is eldercare aka. the people who build the society.


If we use the new after 4 years employment numbers of 5% for women and 20% for men and base it on this, you do the math.
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I did a small calculation the other day. Each person costs society around 40-50k a year (housing, food, 3 year integration program, transport etc), which is at least 3 years before they are able to enter the workforce = $150k roughly.

Statistics show that most don't know the alphabet and have little to no schooling, so they are going to get a low paying job, if they get one. So thats 40-50 in income a year, with an effective income tax of 40%. so they are going to be paying $20k tops in tax (minus whatever benefits they get housing, taxi for their kids to get to school, free childcare etc.). It will on average take them 7 1/2 years for them to pay for themselves. This doesn't count the expenditure on the healthcare sector.

If we say most are mid 30s that means, before they hit 0 and start to pay their way, they are mid 40's, which leaves 20 years, before forced retirement for them to build up a pension and pay in taxes what they are going to get in pension and added age expenses (not likely).

This is only the good ones, with a 50% immigrant unemployment as it is, most aren't going to pay their own way ever and will end up on average costing society 50-100k a year per person.

That is roughly a yearly extra expense of 1,75 billion dollars, if 35k of them are over 18. (not counting extra expenses for schooling for sub 18s, healthcare etc. etc..)

Our BNP is 217 billion, so that's close to a full percent of the public budget.
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If you have a household income north of a 150k and you can afford sending your children to an above average school. I actually think you will be better off in the US.

I feel I have succeeded in our conversation as this is obviously the conclusion that was suppressed in my comments. bigstar[1].gif
post #1299 of 2656
Go pet the cats and have a glass of wine, to celebrate.
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European police isn't bored.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35067187

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35074561
post #1301 of 2656
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which is 0,5% of the entire population,

 

HALF OF ONE PERCENT?!

 

Shit. You're right. Goodbye Denmark. Might as well change the national dish to kibbe and call it a day. 

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There's a hot Danish gal in my office. She seems to like living here, so if you count her spot there's probably room there for one more.
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HALF OF ONE PERCENT?!

Shit. You're right. Goodbye Denmark. Might as well change the national dish to kibbe and call it a day. 

This year and expenses are expenses.

Did you read the rest of the post? It has nothing to do with race or religion, but that they aren't going to be an asset of the country, as you have argued earlier.
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Are you an asset to the country? Because from here you seem like a grumpy gus that just brings the mood down and has no family values as evidenced by your hatred for your sister. 

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My tax return says yes and if you are a cunt, who steals from family members, you deserve the hate.

I'm not grumpy, I'm a realist.

Me not liking family members has nothing to do with me not wanting to pay through the nose in tax, to pay for people not paying their way through life.
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