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post #1726 of 2069

Leather >>>> any other fabric, IMO. I'm super happy with my dark wine MA-1.

post #1727 of 2069
First fit I've posted in almost 5yrs lol


EDIT to answer some questions:
- Navy nylon stock sz50 (only deleted shoulder guzzets). Just told Charly I didn't want to mess with MTM and let him take the wheel. Honestly surprised at how well it fit without tweaking anything. Wasn't expecting that. Between classic and slim is accurate
- Even after owning several TOJ garments (back when I weighed 45lbs less lol) the quality of the materials used exceeded my expectations
- Ordered a couple hours after it dropped in this thread. Arrived the day I posted this. Probably would have received it a little sooner if it didn't get the full customs inspection + USPS fumbling the handoff to my mailroom. I'm guessing out of the initial orders, black shipped first then maroon then navy
Edited by I<3Bacon - 5/1/16 at 11:48am
post #1728 of 2069

Navy Nylon?

post #1729 of 2069
Edited post to answer some questions
Edited by I<3Bacon - 5/1/16 at 11:49am
post #1730 of 2069
when did you order and receive?
post #1731 of 2069

 Navy ma-1 looks baller. Hows the nylon quality?

post #1732 of 2069

I don't usually post on forums but I had to make a comment. I received my moto in black lambskin today (ordered 4/20), and my god, it is by far the best fitting jacket I've never owned.

Measurements were perfect and the leather is buttery soft. No loose threads or anything. Just wanted to say thanks!

post #1733 of 2069
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Originally Posted by Speak-Softly View Post
 

I don't usually post on forums but I had to make a comment. I received my moto in black lambskin today (ordered 4/20), and my god, it is by far the best fitting jacket I've never owned.

Measurements were perfect and the leather is buttery soft. No loose threads or anything. Just wanted to say thanks!

MTM or stock?

post #1734 of 2069
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Originally Posted by ambyance View Post
 

MTM or stock?


MTM, went off a stock 48 though, usually a medium but got the sleeve lengths longer, and some other minor alterations.

 

Measurements I went with recommended by Charly after I sent my measurements to him, @ 5'11, 160lbs

 

Shoulders - 17.5"

Chest - 20.5"

Waist - 19.3"

Length Front - 22"

Length Back - 24.3"

Sleeve Length - 25"

Sleeve widith @ pit - 7.2"

Sleeve width @ elbow - 6.4"

Sleeve with @ cuff - 5.0"

post #1735 of 2069
logged on for the first time in many months, taking a long shot to see if MA-1's were an option yet, and I was pleasantly surprised

take my money, charly
post #1736 of 2069
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speak-Softly View Post


MTM, went off a stock 48 though, usually a medium but got the sleeve lengths longer, and some other minor alterations.

Measurements I went with recommended by Charly after I sent my measurements to him, @ 5'11, 160lbs

Shoulders - 17.5"
Chest - 20.5"
Waist - 19.3"
Length Front - 22"
Length Back - 24.3"
Sleeve Length - 25"
Sleeve widith @ pit - 7.2"
Sleeve width @ elbow - 6.4"
Sleeve with @ cuff - 5.0"

Any stretch marks/scarring on the lamb?
post #1737 of 2069
Quote:
Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post


Any stretch marks/scarring on the lamb?

None that I've seen so far.

post #1738 of 2069

Can anyone tell me what the import duties / taxes are when getting a jacket delivered to the UK? Want to get an idea of what to expect.

post #1739 of 2069
Thread Starter 
SAMPLE SALE

Really quick, small flash sample sale.

Measurements are approximates.

Do NOT PM me. If you're interested, email us at sales@falcongarmentsco.com.




1. MA1 in black lambskin - $550 shipped US

No shoulder gussets.

Fits like a 48.
  • Shoulder - 17.75"
  • Chest - 21"
  • Front length - 22.75"
  • Sleeve length - 26"





2. DR2 in black lambskin - $550 shipped US

Fits like a short 52.
  • Shoulder - 19"
  • Chest - 23"
  • Front length - 21"
  • Sleeve length - 24"





3. SOLD

DR3 in black lambskin - $550 shipped US

Fits like slightly cropped 44.

  • Shoulder - 16.25"
  • Chest - 18.9"
  • Front length -18.5"
  • Sleeve length - 23"




Edited by mrchariybrown - 5/4/16 at 6:11am
post #1740 of 2069
hey, guys, so i received my v2 yesterday (placed the order on 4/18 and received the jacket on 5/2) and am now the proud owner of a brown lamb a-2, black calf dr3, and a black/black v2 (no striped ribbing)

i've been meaning to do a thorough write-up on the jackets with my thoughts and stuff for a while now, but i never seem to have the time/am too lazy, so i thought that i'd just write up some "quick" impressions for any prospective buyers out there

note that all three of my jackets are mtm, and that i haven't actually worn any of these jackets out yet (haven't felt like wearing my a-2 yet for whatever reason, i'm on the fence regarding keeping or selling my dr3, and the v2 i only received just yesterday), though i have tried them on and moved my arms around and all of that while in them numerous times

also note that in terms of leather, garment construction, and fashion in general, i'm pretty much a layman, so don't expect some super thorough, in-depth kind of write-up

please also also note that these are gonna be my honest impressions, so please refrain from reading if you're the zealous fanboy type as some things may trigger you



impressions below:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

brown lamb a-2

- the shearling on the a-2 is like, really soft

- the lamb is also really soft and smooth ("buttery")

- there are some veins/stretch marks/whatever they're called, but i personally don't mind them

- the brown lamb has a slight oxblood/burgundy hue to it at certain angles/under certain lighting

- i really love the choice by the falcon guys to replace the old half-placket with a full one (the half-placket looked really stupid imo)

- however, i unfortunately don't like their choice to have zippered interior pockets. now i know that they'll never be seen at all, but they just seem kinda tacky imo, especially on the a-2 where the only other zipper is the main one (they make a little more sense on the dr's since those jackets are full of zippers). i know that they meant well since they're more practical, but they kinda detract from the "character" of the jacket (or maybe i'm just weirdly particular, who knows) and i would've just preferred more traditional pockets

- the side pockets are too small to really be practical except for holding small items, but i think they look cool and wouldn't change a thing about them

- the a-2 has a considerable weight to it despite being lamb

- this is probably a problem unique to me, but the center button that holds the shearling in place behind the collar rubs right into one of the vertebrae on my neck

- charly suggested lengthening my initial front length measurement by an entire inch to account for the ribbing causing the jacket to ride up (i settled on lengthening it by only half an inch), but the front doesn't really ride up at all, unlike the sleeves which can (though they don't ride up that much either ime).

- ime, the sleeves' ribbing on the a-2 is slim/tight to the point where it won't dip below where the hand widens unless you pull it down, so that's something to consider when deciding on how long you want your sleeves to be

- there isn't any discernible "sloppy" stitching at all; just really good craftsmanship overall



black calf dr3

- the black calf on my dr3 is more matte than black lamb

- the calf is smooth, though obviously not as soft as the lamb

- i can't really discern any need to break the jacket in at all; it's plenty pliable as is despite being calf, which is actually kinda disappointing since i wanted something that i could make a "journey" out of breaking in

- tbh, i was actually kinda disappointed in the jacket when i first got it. if you guys will remember, i received a jacket in lamb by mistake the first time around. it actually really blew me away, though, because the lamb simply felt "luxe" and nice all around. i remember being in complete awe of it, though unfortunately my choice to go a bit too cropped didn't work out as well as i hoped it would. anyway, compared to the lamb, the calf isn't as impressive imo, and whereas the lamb dr3 i had really felt like an $800 jacket, the calf one doesn't.

but it has since grown on me, so i don't want to say that i'm completely disappointed, nor do i want to say that there are necessarily any faults with the material. it's just that it's not exactly what i was expecting it to be.


- unfortunately, there are some loose threads and areas where it's been double-stitched (charly assured me that this was due to calf being a harder leather to work with; tbh, i'm not that anal about clean stitching, but i thought that those of you who might be a little more particular about this type of thing should know). the undersides of the belt loops are especially "sloppy" (seems like they were stitched on as an afterthought, and as a result the stitching just... doesn't look good, though yes, i do realize that nobody will ever see it)

- there are also what look like pencil marks around various areas of the jacket, which were apparent on my lamb one too. charly assured me that they'd come off with some water and stuff, but i feel like they shouldn't be on there at all to begin with. maybe i'm sounding entitled, but i don't think that it'd be too much to ask for these jackets to not be sent out before they're inspected for stuff like this and cleaned up a bit.

now what might be interesting for some of you to know is that the riders and the bombers are actually made by different people. i don't know if any of you guys remember drew mentioning this at all, but apparently the riders are made by a really "artistic" (in reference to their ability to do a lot of the quilted stuff) married couple, while the bombers are made by an old military veteran. now this was a long time ago that drew mentioned this and idk if things have changed since then, but i feel like the old military vet/whoever is making the bombers now is the "better" craftsman, since there aren't any discernible pencil marks or flaws on either my a-2 or v2. i don't remember how clean the stitchwork on my lamb dr3 was, but as i mentioned there were pencil marks.


- the collar on my dr3 is also uneven in that one side overlaps its corresponding epaulet more than the other. charly said that i could just train it to where it'd sit more evenly, but i got a dr3 with four snaps on the lapels, and i don't know how i'd go about doing that unless i wore it without the lapels snapped down.

- my dr3 has a nice slim fit, but at the same time i feel like it looks a little boxy (perhaps due to it being more cropped than usual? it has a 19.5" front length to a 23" sleeve length). now maybe i'm being deluded here, but has anybody else noticed how the riders seem to look boxier now in their transition to falcon? i think it's most apparent if you look at the old stock photos of the toj riders vs. how their current falcon iterations look now (especially on the official falcon site). they used to look really fitted/slim and flattering before, whereas something seems to be different now with falcon.

i even compared the old toj stock measurement chart to falcon's, and while they're similar, the falcon jackets somehow manage to look different. could this be due to a change in the "patterning" or whatever it's called, or am i alone here in seeing what i'm describing?


- i also really would've preferred if they had just kept the old 2013 dr exactly as it was. though the only discernible differences i can tell (besides the difference in fitment that i'm describing above) between the 2013 dr and the dr3 are that the former has bigger lapels and belt loops with snaps, those two things make a world of difference to me. the snaps on the belt loops bring the entire look of the jacket together and "balance" it out, while the bigger lapels just simply looked better and cooler imo.

as my dr3 is now, the belt loops look kind of out of place or like an afterthought, though the jacket would've looked uneven and too bare without them



black/black v2

- the black lamb sleeves are smooth and soft (as one is to expect by now)

- one sleeve has smoother-looking leather while the other has the veins/stretch marks/whatever (i don't mind, though)

- i'll probably have to check this again to make sure, but it seems like the leather on my v2 is thinner than on my a-2 (though my lamb dr3, from what i remember, was substantial)

- the black melton wool doesn't seem to pick up a lot of lint surprisingly

- the wool does, however, unfortunately leave itself on your clothing (obviously more apparent on lighter clothing, like it was on the white oxford i was wearing when i first tried it on)

it's not super noticeable, but yeah, it is there


- the armholes are really high (very noticeable when compared to how my other jackets fit)

- this is probably just unique to me again, but i didn't notice that the pockets were different on the v1 and the v2 until i actually got the jacket (so head's up, i guess, to any other blind people out there)

- the sleeve ribbing on the varsities (i've owned both) isn't as slim as it is on the a-2, so the sleeves will naturally dip below where your hand widens if they're long enough

- the ribbing along the body does seem to ride up a little noticeably compared to on the a-2, though i don't know if it's enough to constitute that much more added length to compensate



so there it is

started getting tired/losing focus towards the end there, and there are probably aspects of the jackets (all three of them) that i'm forgetting about, but the bulk of it is there



overall, i'm happy with my a-2 and v2, though i'm not too sure about my dr3. i like it a little more each time i try it on, but the sleeves are unfortunately a bit too short and the uneven collar thing bothers me. now these aren't deal-breakers by any means, but if anybody is interested in a slightly slimmer and slightly more cropped 44 for a negotiable price, pm me.

if i could do it again and order another rider, i'd probably order a dr1 in lamb with slightly longer sleeves and more room for layering (i told charly that i'd only ever be wearing a button-up underneath at the most when he sized me), though the 2013 dr is the one my kokoro truly desires



anyway, i'm just gonna close by saying that if you can only get one jacket from falcon and aren't particular either way regarding whether it's a rider or bomber, then i'd suggest a bomber-type jacket in lamb due to the better craftsmanship and luxe-ier material
Edited by masshi - 5/4/16 at 1:48am
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