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Originally Posted by BeraQueezy View Post

That shade though lol8%5B1%5D.gif


On whose part? haha

Sounds like he wants a Saint Laurent rider. So, in his best interest, I suggested that he save up for a Saint Laurent rider. Just trying to show people the path to enlightenment. smile.gif
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@mrchariybrown

 

Yeah, I appreciate the advice, haha. I understand that it is very difficult (if not impossible) to please everyone, but it seemed to me not everyone was clear of the changes between the TOJ DR2013 and the FG DR3.

 

The reality is, the customers will vote with their money, and I'm just offering my constructive criticism. I know I cited SLP a lot, but it's pretty indisputable that Hedi Slimane hugely popularized the whole leather perfecto trend that's going on currently, and that's what a lot of FG's demographic is interested in.

 

I apologize if it seemed I was making an attack on FG. Rereading my post, I can see how it may be construed that way. I'm pretty stoked to see what FG has in store with the four-panel back, though!

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Originally Posted by barramundi View Post

Yeah, @rbnman
covered this really well.

1) On the TOJ DR2013, the lapels are more generous, and the corners are cut sharper and more angularly. This is closer to Saint Laurent's aesthetic, and is my personal preference. On the FG DR3, it's the same as the DR2.

2) Probably the biggest deal to me is the way the shoulders are done in FG's reincarnation of the TOJ DR2013. The same seam stitching detail is reused from the DR1 and DR2, as opposed to the method that a lot of the more traditional looking perfectos utilize in their designs (such as BLK DNM or Saint Laurent). The way the stitching is done on the DR3 also affects how the epaulets are sewn on the shoulder and their overall look. Epaulets (from my observation) seem to be sewn in a way that they fold over somewhat, and then snap on, so they are not 100% flush with the shoulder. (See basically any military designed jacket or coat with epaulets).

3) Another huge detail to me. The back design. On the TOJ DR2013, has a cleaner back where it is a 3-panel design, with a large main panel and two smaller side panels, as well as the liver panel at the bottom. This really added to the overall sleekness and cleanness of the TOJ DR2013's design. On the FG DR3, the two-panel backs are recycled from the DR2, where there is one large seam that cuts straight down and divides the back.

4) The belt snaps, as you have mentioned. FG has stated they decided to do away with the snaps for a cleaner and "less cluttered" look.  My issue with this is that the belt snaps are critical to provide some balance between the front and back. On the DR3, you've got all this bling on the back, and hardly any on the back, making it very front heavy on the details (this was even more noticeable prior to FG's decision to allow rear facing zippers). I also just think it helps the belt pop out more, which is such a key feature to the overall design of this perfecto inspired jacket.

5) The liver panels by FG are hard to gauge for me because of the scarcity of photos, and in particular of the back, so it is difficult for me to comment on it.


I am disappointed because the TOJ DR2013 was such a strong and excellent design, and really emulates the Saint Laurent riders so effectively (I imagine this to be how many others feel). Like many others, I got screwed over by TOJ, and I have a TOJ DR2013 order in limbo (or more likely hell). Although I am deeply impressed by the quality and service FG has consistently offered, the design for FG's DR3 does feel... weaker.

It feels, in fact, that it is essentially the DR2 or DR1, but with epaulets and a belt slapped on. With these two added details optional and removable, what are we left with, really?

As others have already expressed before me, I personally want a FG perfecto that is exactly like the original TOJ DR2013.
it seems as tho they might just not be for you...lol
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Was there a relatively firm no on the return of the calf suede baseball jacket? I was just thinking that a version in sand, camel, or navy with tonal ribbing and trim might help ease the pain of never receiving my diesel blue TOJ T-1.
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Slimane popularized perfectos?

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Slimane popularized perfectos?

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And here I've been giving Brando credit this whole time.
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Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post

Just trying to show people the path to enlightenment. smile.gif

I thought the path to enlightenment was squats and other heavy lifts.
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Originally Posted by Renalan View Post

I thought the path to enlightenment was squats and other heavy lifts.

There are many paths to enlightenment..

Though I do prefer lifting semi-obscene amounts of weights to reach it.
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Got my Brown Goatskin DR2 this week, ordered and paid on 11/3 so 5 weeks turnaround was great - thanks Charly/Dan.

Really happy with jacket quality, goatskin is soft but feels a good weight and just got in on rear facing sleeve zips which I like a lot. Stock size 49 but think the shoulders may be a bit too wide, pics are below and I'd appreciate feedback. At the moment I'm thinking to sell on and get a MTM on the shoulder width as the rest feels a good fit.



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Got my Brown Goatskin DR2 this week, ordered and paid on 11/3 so 5 weeks turnaround was great - thanks Charly/Dan.

Really happy with jacket quality, goatskin is soft but feels a good weight and just got in on rear facing sleeve zips which I like a lot. Stock size 49 but think the shoulders may be a bit too wide, pics are below and I'd appreciate feedback. At the moment I'm thinking to sell on and get a MTM on the shoulder width as the rest feels a good fit. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



Looks great to me. Not sure whether this addresses your specific concern with the shoulders, but my experience with the brown goatskin was after 10 or so wears it softened/relaxed considerably and the "boxy" feel of the jacket went away.
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Originally Posted by cyc wid it View Post

Slimane popularized perfectos?

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No, of course not. He popularized denim.
post #1122 of 2309
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Originally Posted by JasonV View Post

Got my Brown Goatskin DR2 this week, ordered and paid on 11/3 so 5 weeks turnaround was great - thanks Charly/Dan.

Really happy with jacket quality, goatskin is soft but feels a good weight and just got in on rear facing sleeve zips which I like a lot. Stock size 49 but think the shoulders may be a bit too wide, pics are below and I'd appreciate feedback. At the moment I'm thinking to sell on and get a MTM on the shoulder width as the rest feels a good fit.





Looks good to me!



Out of interest, what's your height/weight?

I'm deciding between 48 and 49 so am curious to see a similar fit.


Thanks. 

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Originally Posted by BluePlateKing View Post



Looks good to me!




Out of interest, what's your height/weight?


I'm deciding between 48 and 49 so am curious to see a similar fit.


Thanks. 


185cm / 76kg
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Originally Posted by johanm View Post

Looks great to me. Not sure whether this addresses your specific concern with the shoulders, but my experience with the brown goatskin was after 10 or so wears it softened/relaxed considerably and the "boxy" feel of the jacket went away.

Thanks for the comments, maybe that's it - seems to be a bit of leather 'hanging' from shoulder on each side so if it softens and that goes could be ok.
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Shoulders look good to me. I say keep.
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