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post #916 of 1719

Pakistanis build AKs on the floors of mud huts I read a Nat Geo article on it in the doctors office.

post #917 of 1719
It was designed to be field stripped by anyone. Most of them only have 6 components.
post #918 of 1719
Curious, is there any point to background checks as a means to deter crime when most guns used to commit crimes are purchased online, at shows, or illegally?

I see the point of background checks for things where there is no alternative (e.g. visas/passports, global entry/TSA pre-check, etc.), but unless all legal sales are regulated, what gives?

Not trying to stir anything up, just wondering.
post #919 of 1719
lots of straw buyers here on the Indiana border with Chicago. Seems like they could track that somehow.
post #920 of 1719
You can buy guns online?
post #921 of 1719
gunbroker
post #922 of 1719
But they don't get sent to your house, do they? Don't you have to go pick them up in person from a licensed dealer who does a background check and registers the purchase? It's not Prime for guns is it?
post #923 of 1719
Yeah, they have dealers in your local area. Most of their decent weapons are banned in California. The Glock 19 Gen 3 is sometimes available for decent price there.
post #924 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

But they don't get sent to your house, do they? Don't you have to go pick them up in person from a licensed dealer who does a background check and registers the purchase? It's not Prime for guns is it?

I got a buddy that does this. He has a federal license, takes the buyers info (after receiving the gun) and does the background check and gives the gun to the buyer for a small fee. He's had people openly talk about straw buying right in front of him which makes him very happy. He gets to keep the gun and reports the person to atf/fbi/whatever. It happens maybe once a year.
post #925 of 1719
Ahh, looks like online sales have to be shipped to someone with (I didn't know the term till now) an FFL. It still seems like gun shows are still like the wild wild west.
post #926 of 1719
Gun shows are the safest:

That finding is consistent with a mid-1980s study for the NIJ, which investigated the gun purchase and use habits of convicted felons in 12 state prisons. The study (later published as the book Armed and Considered Dangerous) found that gun shows were such a minor source of criminal gun acquisition that they were not even worth reporting as a separate figure.

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/facts-about-gun-shows
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#BlackGunsMatter
post #928 of 1719
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

Ahh, looks like online sales have to be shipped to someone with (I didn't know the term till now) an FFL. It still seems like gun shows are still like the wild wild west.

All federal firearms laws apply at gun shows just like they apply at gun shops. Criminals don't get guns at gun shows. If you're buying a gun from an FFL at a gun show, you have to go through the exact same steps as if you were buying a gun at their store. Private sales do not require background checks (federally) but there are other laws you can look up in regards to that and they must be followed. Example: It's a felony to knowingly sell to someone that is prohibited from possessing guns. Also, private sales can not be done for the intent of profit. I can sell a gun I no longer want to someone (in my state I'd have to take them to a gun store for a background check and I'd do so anyways to be safe), inherited guns, etc. but it's illegal to sell guns with the intent to profit without a FFL. If you get caught doing so the ATF will make your life hell.

If you buy a gun online (I have) you send the information for the FFL you are using to the seller. The seller ships the gun to the FFL. Your FFL then runs the background check.
post #929 of 1719
I think at some point you could get an FFL without a shop. You could sell guns from home if you owned a safe. Maybe they stopped that now,
post #930 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Hombre Secreto View Post

I think at some point you could get an FFL without a shop. You could sell guns from home if you owned a safe. Maybe they stopped that now,

Yes you can. My friend has a FFL and conducts his business out of his house. That's who I use.

I was just trying to keep the comparison simple.
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