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post #1036 of 1722
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Originally Posted by Hombre Secreto View Post

I think a lot of vanity is to blame for that. I mean guys needing to show off their tacticool weapons. I could only imagine how obnoxious some of those guys are at shooting ranges.

 

I can't go to the range around here without dbags shooting sideways or whatever.  There was this fat hispanic dude in a lane next to me once who had a 45, and he proceeded to blow through his entire 12 round magazine as fast as he could.  I am not even sure he hit the paper at ~20 feet.  Needless to say, I was impressed.

post #1037 of 1722

Yet gun advocates continue to rattle the cage for carte blanche open carry. Im not opposed to gun ownership but that shit is looney

post #1038 of 1722
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

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Originally Posted by Hombre Secreto View Post

I think a lot of vanity is to blame for that. I mean guys needing to show off their tacticool weapons. I could only imagine how obnoxious some of those guys are at shooting ranges.

I can't go to the range around here without dbags shooting sideways or whatever.  There was this fat hispanic dude in a lane next to me once who had a 45, and he proceeded to blow through his entire 12 round magazine as fast as he could.  I am not even sure he hit the paper at ~20 feet.  Needless to say, I was impressed.

I dont shoot but a buddy of mine has a story like this. Basically he was trying to sight in a rifle for hunting and some knob was doing the same... Unloading clips. He walked over an asked the guy politely to stop. Knob continues. He then warns the guy to stop. Knob continues. He goes and gets his Barret 50 cal and fired off a clip. Knob leaves.
post #1039 of 1722
Just about every range I have shot on, which has been quite a few, has a rule against extreme rapid fire. Usually one shot per second is the limit.
post #1040 of 1722
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

Just about every range I have shot on, which has been quite a few, has a rule against extreme rapid fire. Usually one shot per second is the limit.

Yep. I've shot in CA, MT, WY, ND, FL, VA, and GA and most gun ranges will put a stop to that nonsense really quick.

The only range like those described above I've encountered is a free outdoor range in the national forest near here. It's a complete shitshow. You go there one day and a bunch of people who annoy you are shooting off AKs and Mac-10s and drinking forties. You go there another day and some old white guy is screaming at you for any supposed breach of etiquette. You point your gun 10 degrees to the side and get "KEEP YOUR DAMN GUN POINTED DOWN RANGE!!!" It's a miracle no one's been killed out there. I haven't gone in years.
post #1041 of 1722
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Originally Posted by englade321 View Post

Yet gun advocates continue to rattle the cage for carte blanche open carry. Im not opposed to gun ownership but that shit is looney

It's what made me not renew my NRA membership. I just think that's too far. It's funny how certain issues are like that - deal breakers. I used to belong to ten or fifteen nonprofit organizations. I'm down to three.
post #1042 of 1722
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Originally Posted by FLMountainMan View Post

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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

Just about every range I have shot on, which has been quite a few, has a rule against extreme rapid fire. Usually one shot per second is the limit.

Yep. I've shot in CA, MT, WY, ND, FL, VA, and GA and most gun ranges will put a stop to that nonsense really quick.

That is my assumption as well. My thought is he had to be the enforcer that day and not whine to the range operator.
post #1043 of 1722
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Originally Posted by FLMountainMan View Post

Yep. I've shot in CA, MT, WY, ND, FL, VA, and GA and most gun ranges will put a stop to that nonsense really quick.

The only range like those described above I've encountered is a free outdoor range in the national forest near here. It's a complete shitshow. You go there one day and a bunch of people who annoy you are shooting off AKs and Mac-10s and drinking forties. You go there another day and some old white guy is screaming at you for any supposed breach of etiquette. You point your gun 10 degrees to the side and get "KEEP YOUR DAMN GUN POINTED DOWN RANGE!!!" It's a miracle no one's been killed out there. I haven't gone in years.

Many years ago, you could shoot anywhere in the Angeles National Forest here except in restricted areas, e.g., those that were too close to homes or campgrounds. Later, in the early '80s, they closed the forest to shooting (except for licensed hunting) and set up designated shooting areas. They proved to be, as you so aptly put it, a complete shitshow. People would haul up refrigerators and other trash to shoot up. They became the destination of choice for inner-city gangbangers to blaze away with their "pieces." I have the vague impression that one or two people were bumped off, but I'm not sure about that. I believe most if not all of them are now closed. No loss to me! I always shunned those places like the proverbial plague.

Prior to that, back in the '70s and early '80s, it was pleasant to roam to woods with my Smith Model 34 .22-.32 Kit Gun (or other .22s) popping away at pine cones or trying to hit chips of wood floating down a stream. And before anyone takes me to task, I was always careful about backstops and did not shoot into water at an angle that would cause ricochets.
post #1044 of 1722
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

Just about every range I have shot on, which has been quite a few, has a rule against extreme rapid fire. Usually one shot per second is the limit.

My local range has a strict rule of not only one round per second but also only a group of three. The long gun range is really a pretty relaxing place and everyone is exceedingly friendly.
post #1045 of 1722
I grew up shooting out in the woods and never thought anything of shooting pine cones out of trees all day long. Maybe not the best example.
post #1046 of 1722
How are you supposed to practice the Mozambique drill with only 1 round a second?
post #1047 of 1722
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

How are you supposed to practice the Mozambique drill with only 1 round a second?

Join a practical shooting club. Alternatively, use a smaller or more distant target if practice the Mozambique drill you must. Personally, at ranges that limit speed of fire (which is about all of them), I just start from low ready (aka the "guard" position) and try to get off a single well-placed shot as fast as possible.
post #1048 of 1722
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

Join a practical shooting club. Alternatively, use a smaller or more distant target if practice the Mozambique drill you must. Personally, at ranges that limit speed of fire (which is about all of them), I just start from low ready (aka the "guard" position) and try to get off a single well-placed shot as fast as possible.

It's been awhile, but I was a fairly consistent IDPA participant for a number of years. I was only a point or so off Master in the ESP division. At the time I shot with a Springfield XD which I feel is unfairly placed there. If I was in with the other wonder 9's in the SSP division, I would have ranked Master.
post #1049 of 1722
How come the XD places you in ESP while comparable pistols are in SSP? I haven't paid much attention to IDPA in quite a while, but I assume a stock Glock, for example, would be in SSP.
post #1050 of 1722
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

How come the XD places you in ESP while comparable pistols are in SSP? I haven't paid much attention to IDPA in quite a while, but I assume a stock Glock, for example, would be in SSP.

The XD's firing pin is fully cocked upon chambering a round, making it a single action pistol according to IDPA's rule book..
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