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post #46 of 70
How do you define better, in this instance it is a subjective judgement? A SR suit may be better for a city boy but jeans and a t shirt may be better for the guy on the farm.

Europeans will pay more for their clothes but only because the cost is more for the identical item.

Fashion also comes in my idea better will be different to a teenager's.
post #47 of 70
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I think Black Americans are the best dressed group.
1.I totally agree with this. Sure, Black America has its fashion sins (Stacy Adams, those 311 or whatever ads you see in GQ, NBA players, 40 year-old ex-NWA members dressing like they're in high school, etc) but I see a well-turned-out black dude way more often than a really stylish white guy. I'm always impressed in low-key family restaurants, that black guys wear ties and jackets to lunch on sundays, while us honkies are in track suits. I work right by city hall and, contrary to what many may think, Cambridge MA actually has lot of black residents. There's this one guy I always see coming and going, he must be on the city council, and damn if he doesn't dress well. I mean, he's not wearing $10K of bespoke stuff, as he's a freakin' municipal civil servant, but his colors and patterns are spot on, and he actually wears a hat. He clearly takes pride in his presentation, and has fun with style, which I think is more acceptable among black Americans. I can't think of a white equivalent to Andre 3000 or even P. Diddy. Meanwhile, I'm the uptight square and/or foppish twit at my office because I sometimes wear a tie to work. 2. But on another note, I'm continually amazed at how many Canadians there are on this board. I notice more here than any other "lifestyle" or "hobbyist" board I've frequented. Asian-Americans seem overrepresented here as well. 3. If I were to chose one group who dresses best, I'd have to say the denizens of big cities in Nordic countries, but that's a function of a lot of factors: lotsa money to spend on threads, a lesser portion of their income going to other sundries (as the state pays for many of the daily expenses Americans have to budget for), a gene pool that wears fashion well, a generally style-conscious and design-oriented culture, etc.
post #48 of 70
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3. If I were to chose one group who dresses best, I'd have to say the denizens of big cities in Nordic countries, but that's a function of a lot of factors: lotsa money to spend on threads, a lesser portion of their income going to other sundries (as the state pays for many of the daily expenses Americans have to budget for), a gene pool that wears fashion well, a generally style-conscious and design-oriented culture, etc.

Ah... the glories of Eurocommunism
post #49 of 70
You will find well dressed individuals in any major city, but my vote overall for a nice sense of style and most importantly the proper way clothes should fit is the Japanese (and no I'm not talking about the ones that keep Vuitton in business ).
post #50 of 70
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Style is a function of Money. Americans on average are wealthier than Europeans . This means that more Americans can afford Brionis and Attoloni suits than the poorer Europeans.
No, style is a function of personal preference and influence. Fashion is a function of money. You can have no money and dress stylishly. There are numerous people with tons of money and not a stitch of style, like 3/4 of the actors you see. They have money and access, yet are virtually indiscernible from 21 y/o frat boys shopping at Abercrombie and Fitch because some Delta told them it looked hot.
post #51 of 70
Are the Euros here talking about Western Europe AND Eastern? 'Cuz I gotta say that when you add Europe West of the Urals in it's pretty bad... However, I think it's comparing apples to Oranges. I once dated the daughter of a French Count, and it was eye-opening as for all of the liberal democracy in Western Europe there's still an aristocratic class that's above it all. I had a moment when I commented in a club how democratic Europe seemed compared to the States as there were people of all ages and professions in the same venue, and she incredulously pointed out in so many words that of course it seemed that way to an American who wasn't born there because they were all peasants. That said, the upper class in Western Europe does dress better. Hell, they still dress for dinner. Everyone else dresses in varying degrees of crap with some enlightened souls that have their own sense of style. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to get out of Paris, or London and drive between say, Pamplona to Finisterre to see how style hasn't progressed much beyond the early 20th century. In this country, (the USA) the crap extends farther up the ladder because our upper class is closer in birth the the unwashed masses, but like Western Europe, the style factor seems to break down about the same. A few enlightened souls in urban areas, some dandied gentry in the country, and crap everywhere else.
post #52 of 70
The US hipsters and well dressed wall-streeters are just as or better dressed than their European counterparts. However, I think on average Europeans are a little more stylish, because they wear cloths that fits. Americans, regardless of race, tend to wear one to several sizes up.
post #53 of 70
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Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to get out of Paris, or London and drive between say, Pamplona to Finisterre to see how style hasn't progressed much beyond the early 20th century.

I think this is an unfortunate section of road to choose. Most of the people you will see will be foreigners walking the camino and whether they are from the USA or Europe will be wearing the same trekking kit.

I have always found in the larger rural towns in Spain when the citizens 'paseo' in the evening that they are well dressed, if in a slightly dated style. The sweaters and cardigans they wear in particular are the equal anywhere else I have been.
post #54 of 70
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Originally Posted by Joel_Cairo View Post
I can't think of a white equivalent to Andre 3000 or even P. Diddy.

Um, you are kidding right?
post #55 of 70
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Originally Posted by jpeirpont View Post
I say Americans,specifically those in NYC. I'll probaly be laughed off the forum, but, I think Black Americans are the best dressed group.

I think that black Americans are both the best and the worst dressed. The in-between is where they're least represented.
post #56 of 70
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Originally Posted by m_wave View Post
American tourists here stick out like sore thumbs and it's a constant source of amusement for my friends and I picking them out then listening for the accent..

What the hell are you talking about? You have the accent, not us.
post #57 of 70
in london, there were 3 groups. 1 -- perhaps the largest seemed in perpetual state of mourning, everyone wore black. 2-- second largest, those that wore what i'd call "marshal/tjmax reject line". also, when will you people learn that if you wear a hat (like americans) you should least bend the brim to curve with your head. 3-- those that considered rl polo to be the best, maybe cuz you're paying $120usd+ a shirt.
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... in London...
hahahah, i just noticed that someone posted this picture in this thread under "england". i posted my reply before i even read through, and thought it was funny... this is exactly what i was talking about under my point 2).
post #58 of 70
With respect to the original question: it depends where you are of course. However, having lived in a couple of places it is easy to tell that people in some European countries (France, Italy, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany, Sweden) on average dress much better than most places in the States. Of course I have to exclude East European countries here! Also many people in the UK have never heard about dressing well.
post #59 of 70
Yes, well I'm afraid all of you were wrong....I'm afraid it was the Mormons. Yes, the Mormons were the correct answer.
post #60 of 70
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Originally Posted by culverwood View Post
I think this is an unfortunate section of road to choose. Most of the people you will see will be foreigners walking the camino and whether they are from the USA or Europe will be wearing the same trekking kit.

I have always found in the larger rural towns in Spain when the citizens 'paseo' in the evening that they are well dressed, if in a slightly dated style. The sweaters and cardigans they wear in particular are the equal anywhere else I have been.

Why? An outside viewer can easily seperate the tourists from the locals, but because of the influx of people from all over you could expect the locals to be worldly.
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