That said, I think other people that pay attention can definately tell the difference. Â It's amazing how my Charvet shirts seem to draw more compliments. Â Then again, if an observer is drawn more to a typical English collar, they might be more taken with a simple Tyrwhitt (which I think is a very fine shirt for the money).
I've often wondered about this french collar. In my mind it's somewhat smaller and softer than the english one and a bit wider than the regular semi-spread one. Very flattering, but seldom seen. Is this correct ? As for the proper topic, in my mind it's: 1:Fit Â 2:Collar style and fabric Â 3:Shell buttons and pattern matching Â 4:All the other frills (gusset, horizontal buttonholes, split yoke etc). The last category is more of a statement from the shirtmaker about the other important details. If these things are done according to the book, chances are that corners have not been cut with more important aspects of the shirt. Carl,
do you have any experience as to what contributes to puckering of the seams ? I've heard many theories, such as those above and also that if the properties of the thread are different from the fabric it will react differently to washing. It stands to reason that if the thread shinks more than the fabric, you'll get the dreaded puckering. B
The collar I describe is both Charvet's read-made shirt collar, as well as the one the store considered its "house style" when I asked. It is as you describe, smaller and softer, but I would say the spread is equal to or narrower than the typical English collar (e.g., T&A, Pink). Although perhaps its smaller size just makes it look narrower . . . it's certainly no straight collar Brooks Brothers, nor is it a spread. Curiously enough, despite the relatively small collars, Charvets accept rather long collar stays. I have a pet peave about shirts that only take very short or narrow collar stays.