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The GQ Fit (I want it as tight as possible without cutting off circulation)

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I'm not here to pass judgement on anyone, but this is just the world we live in, and I just want to fit in to it all, like every other human on this planet.

Oh, I am SO here to pass judgment. I guess I've been doing it wrong?
 

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And here we were commiserating about where all the athletic build, drop 7 noobs had gone. My faith in the style forums is restored
 

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Opinions on the modern skinny fit?

What tailoring houses, if any, cater to this fit? (inb4 "Topman")
What kinds of tailoring issues (shoulder divots, horizontal shirt wrinkles) does it create?
I (and the young ladies) love this fit, but have found it's actually extremely hard to achieve, and the margin of error is just that much tighter.
And that's taking for granted your BMI <20 in the first place (sorry to exclude 95% of this forum!
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Some say, even on an ultra-fit V-tapered fitness model physique with a handsome face, it just looks like you're trying too hard.

What do you guys think?

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I'm curious. In your opinion, is it possible for a suit to be too tight? If so, what are the visible signs of this?

Cheers,

Ac
 

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I understand I'm basically setting myself up to get flamed here, and the age demographic may not be in line with the kind of guys who wear such fits, but this is what young people these days want. Young girls see Justin Bieber, Jonas Brothers, One Direction, or whatever, and they want it. Young boys see it on celebrities too, and want to look like that.

Many tailors have told me the same thing, that all these young guys are coming in asking for their stuff made slimmer, or demanding shirts to be absolutely skintight with zero excess fabric on their body.

Whether you like it or not, this is the inevitable future direction, just like Obamacare, gay marriage, etc. Yes, one day it may/will go "out of style", but that's not the point. At least for the next decade or so, this is what makes a guy look "sexy" "fashionable" "hot" "such a good dresser" whatever words you want to use. It's not "classic style" but most young guys are not trying to look like established 50 year-old barons. We want that edge factor, that rebelliousness, especially when wearing the symbol of The Man and conformity, a suit.

I just want to know more about the technical aspects, I'm not here to make ppl angry because they have a different opinion. Thus my OP questions were about tailoring houses and technical issues that may arise from this fit, etc.

Also, here are some well-known young guys sitting down in such fits:



What I'm asking about isn't THAT weird, such as to get personal attacks for being shallow or chasing jailbait

It's pretty common/normal on red carpets and everywhere amongst fit young males, even beyond the Bieber age group. This is what women of all ages are brainwashed to want these days, by media and consumer culture influences, yes I admit, but that doesn't change things. I don't watch TV/Netflix so I actually don't have up-to-date celebrity knowledge, thus why I used those names. But look at any young guy on the red carpet, or Pitti Uomo, it's the same thing, plus minus some more ankle taper.

I'm just putting it into words explicitly here, whereas most of these conversations are between some celebrity and his tailor, essentially discussing the same thing: "please take in the thighs as much as possible".

Still, I haven't gained much useful info thus far. Boateng, yes I've been following his work. And yes I've been wearing this skinny since 2011, I understand it's a trend, but everything is disposable in the modern world so why not a new suit every 5ish years? Totally reasonable.

And as far as looking sexy vs. respectable, well I think clothes OUGHT to make a person look sexy. Like I said, I'm not a 50 year-old looking for Merill Lynch boardroom attire.
Respectable? We live in Western society in the 21st century... who are we kidding, celebrities are made by releasing sex tapes, society's top alpha males are all getting busted in the news for their escorts and assaulting hotel maids, your wife is probably cheating on you with a guy she met on a dating app (perhaps a young personal trainer in a very tight suit! etc. I'm not here to pass judgement on anyone, but this is just the world we live in, and I just want to fit in to it all, like every other human on this planet.


You're either one of the better trolls on this forum or a sanctimonious twat. My favorite part is your grandiose observations on the world and these wildly vapid claims.

Everyone who wants something different is "a 50 year-old looking for Merill Lynch boardroom attire." I'm probably within 2 years of you in either direction, so what does that make me? Also, I love how your ego dictates that you are the spokesperson for a generation. Are you secretly Kanye West?

You seem also to be oddly fixated on other people.

BTW, Lionel Messi looks atrocious.
 

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What I'm asking about isn't THAT weird, such as to get personal attacks for being shallow or chasing jailbait
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It's pretty common/normal on red carpets and everywhere amongst fit young males, even beyond the Bieber age group. This is what women of all ages are brainwashed to want these days, by media and consumer culture influences, yes I admit, but that doesn't change things. I don't watch TV/Netflix so I actually don't have up-to-date celebrity knowledge, thus why I used those names. But look at any young guy on the red carpet, or Pitti Uomo, it's the same thing, plus minus some more ankle taper.






I'm just putting it into words explicitly here, whereas most of these conversations are between some celebrity and his tailor, essentially discussing the same thing: "please take in the thighs as much as possible".

Still, I haven't gained much useful info thus far. Boateng, yes I've been following his work. And yes I've been wearing this skinny since 2011, I understand it's a trend, but everything is disposable in the modern world so why not a new suit every 5ish years? Totally reasonable.

And as far as looking sexy vs. respectable, well I think clothes OUGHT to make a person look sexy. Like I said, I'm not a 50 year-old looking for Merill Lynch boardroom attire.
Respectable? We live in Western society in the 21st century... who are we kidding, celebrities are made by releasing sex tapes, society's top alpha males are all getting busted in the news for their escorts and assaulting hotel maids, your wife is probably cheating on you with a guy she met on a dating app (perhaps a young personal trainer in a very tight suit!
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) etc. I'm not here to pass judgement on anyone, but this is just the world we live in, and I just want to fit in to it all, like every other human on this planet.

I am familiar with a couple of the guys whose pics you posted. The guy on the right in the top picture that I'm quoting is Khaled Nasr. The 2nd guy from the top in your original post is Davidson Frere. They are both popular on instagram. You have to be more in the 5% body fat range with a good bit of muscle to pull of that look. Also, believe it or not, even if you have the body for it, most people will look at you strangely if you're dressed like that. If you're interested in attracting young hot women (or men for that matter) I would recommend tattoos, a beard, and a harley. Not aggressively tailored menswear. The aggressively tailored menswear might help if your filthy rich. But if you're filthy rich you're probably already slaying it.
 

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Why not approach this from the other end? With enough eating, any suit can be slim fit.
 
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I'm curious. In your opinion, is it possible for a suit to be too tight? If so, what are the visible signs of this?

Cheers,

Ac

Yes, too tight causes discomfort or pain, or doesn't allow you to bend your arm/leg. There may be no visible signs, because theoretically a suit could be completely adherent to the skin, yet not causing these problems (i.e. diving wetsuit). Appearance of fabric and how it falls, how it drapes, how it hugs the thighs etc. depends at least somewhat on the fabric composition (% spandex, linen vs. thick flannel, etc.).

You're either one of the better trolls on this forum or a sanctimonious twat. My favorite part is your grandiose observations on the world and these wildly vapid claims.

Everyone who wants something different is "a 50 year-old looking for Merill Lynch boardroom attire." I'm probably within 2 years of you in either direction, so what does that make me? Also, I love how your ego dictates that you are the spokesperson for a generation. Are you secretly Kanye West?

You seem also to be oddly fixated on other people.

BTW, Lionel Messi looks atrocious.

My ego is too big, AND I'm too fixated on other people... you could at least try to not contradict yourself. You know how I tell when ppl are grandiose and sanctimonious? When they accuse OTHERS of being grandiose/sanctimonious. Because otherwise you would just accept that other humans are perfectly entitled to their own desires, beliefs, and opinions, even if you find it distasteful/disagreeable. No need to judge, get mad, butthurt, emotionally aggravated, etc.
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Yes, too tight causes discomfort or pain, or doesn't allow you to bend your arm/leg. There may be no visible signs, because theoretically a suit could be completely adherent to the skin, yet not causing these problems (i.e. diving wetsuit). Appearance of fabric and how it falls, how it drapes, how it hugs the thighs etc. depends at least somewhat on the fabric composition (% spandex, linen vs. thick flannel, etc.).


My ego is too big, AND I'm too fixated on other people... you could at least try to not contradict yourself. You know how I tell when ppl are grandiose and sanctimonious? When they accuse OTHERS of being grandiose/sanctimonious. Because otherwise you would just accept that other humans are perfectly entitled to their own desires, beliefs, and opinions, even if you find it distasteful/disagreeable. No need to judge, get mad, butthurt, emotionally aggravated, etc.
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I wouldn't exactly call it a tip. You do realize he probably has the body of a professional athlete. If you're 6' tall with 5% body fat and weigh 190 you could probably pull the look off very similarly. I would start with a suitsupply washington and a few trips to an experienced tailor. The suit is inexpensive enough that if your unhappy with the results you'll be only be out about $700 ($500 for suits and maybe $200 for tailoring). Again, If you're doing it for the ladies, there are more effective methods. If you're doing it for yourself, you'll be very uncomfortable.
 

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I don't think there's any harm in someone in their early twenties wanting a slim fit suit to emulate Beckham etc or the guys above. We've all been there at one stage and wanted to look like whoever pop culture brainwashed us into thinking is cool at that moment in our early adulthood.

As always, it's important to remember that any of those famous guys you've pointed out, and deemed attractive by popular culture, are already good looking. They could go the opposite way and wear drape cut and still be deemed just as attractive by popular media.

So if you are wanting to emulate their clothes for the reason of: I will be considered just as good looking / attractive / 'sexy' (to use your word) then you probably have this back to front.

Sadly attractiveness will always largely be deemed on your physical characteristics and personality and manner, and little to do with clothes. That's why a beautiful woman with a nice body can wear an old tshirt and jeans or a haute couture from Chanel and be seen as just as attractive to a man either way. Conversely, the sexiest most revealing Versace dress in the world is not going to make Plain Jane, a Beyonce, Sophia Loren, Cindy Crawford etc. The same of course, is true for us guys.

Really clothes are only ever a frame to the picture I think.

I guess you could say a man in an expensive suit would be attractive to some women by the virtue of its associations with wealth and power but thats another issue.

None of this is to say you shouldn't buy and enjoy wearing a slim fit suit, it's just not going to be the thing you imagine it to be if think it's going to give you Bieber's magnetism with the opposite sex.
 

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My ego is too big, AND I'm too fixated on other people... you could at least try to not contradict yourself. You know how I tell when ppl are grandiose and sanctimonious? When they accuse OTHERS of being grandiose/sanctimonious. Because otherwise you would just accept that other humans are perfectly entitled to their own desires, beliefs, and opinions, even if you find it distasteful/disagreeable. No need to judge, get mad, butthurt, emotionally aggravated, etc. :)


Mate, you should probably Google both words as they're not mutually exclusive.

Your final sentences make me giggle; you have filled the thread with these ridiculous diatribes about "it's how the world works and it's what my generation wants." Let's not forget your claim that anyone whose opinion differs is merely a 50 year old in a boardroom.
 

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Has anyone else caught on that this thread is a sly attempt to fill Styfo with as many cock bulge pictures as possible?
 

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None of this is to say you shouldn't buy and enjoy wearing a slim fit suit, it's just not going to be the thing you imagine it to be if think it's going to give you Bieber's magnetism with the opposite sex.

I agree. I would say what makes a guy be more attractive is demeanor/body language/personality/etc. and in the looks department, things like face, height, blah blah before how tight your suit is. I do not expect a tight suit to turn any fuddy duddy into David Beckham.

Has anyone else caught on that this thread is a sly attempt to fill Styfo with as many cock bulge pictures as possible?

That's just where your eyes are going
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I've handled many fittings, and have seen a lot of guys in suits. Men wanting the "GQ fit" is an epidemic that I have to navigate every single day. Most men want shirts too tight in the chest/stomach, jackets 3" too short, and trousers too tight in the thigh (I don't mind the tapered look, so long as it's not reading on his calves).

I think this is (at a lesser extent) similar to what women must experience when it comes to their body image in relation to hyperreal images in mass media. Try explaining to a teenage girl with anorexia that she is too skinny. Most guys have completely unrealistic expectations when it comes to fit. It's not magic; it's clothing. Some men have genuine mental issues when it comes to this, and all I can do is try to convince them that what they see in the mirror and what other people see is not the same thing.

I live in a city where we are usually ~3 to 5 years behind the rest of the world when it comes to fashion. As a result, the skinny suit craze of 2009 is in full effect now. I'd say a third of men equate a fitted suit with a tight suit. I realize that a lot of this is relative/taste, but I tend to think that a tight suit is tight, and therefore does not fit.

Most men want their jackets so tight in the waist that they are unable to button them, and end up walking around town with them open, which causes you to lose the flattering silhouette of the coat.

This problem stems from pinned, photoshopped/airbrushed images in magazines like GQ. That model is posing in the suit; he isn't wearing it around town and sitting for 8 hour work days in it.

When a bride-to-be wants her 240 lb man to look like Joseph Gordon-Levitt in a skinny Topman suit, I try to explain that "this is not a look for him." I've had men complain that their shirts/suits crease at the elbow when they bend it. A guy once told me that shirt fabric was too "textiley." Again, it's not magic. At a certain point, you have to wear your clothes and not let them wear you.

Flusser has the right idea when it comes to changing the question from "what are guys wearing today?" to "what would look good on me?" And in all honesty, I think the complete opposite is true when it comes to skinny/ectomorph builds; they tend to look the worst in tighter suits. Going a little big on them adds some necessary visual weight to their frame. A slim or slightly athletic build can pull off a tighter look if he wants to show off that he's in shape, but not a skinny guy.

You can try to be "rebellious" if you want, but you are chasing fast fashion, which is a game that will not end well. I've seen guys spend small fortunes on entire wardrobes of clothes that are too tight. What happens in a couple years when he gains 20 lbs and has ten expensive suits that are completely unwearable?

At the end of the day, it comes down to balance. Closer fit = less comfort, and when you don't look comfortable in your clothes, you don't look good.

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