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post #16 of 42
Yep, Taavo Somer is an example of a (barely) good idea run wild. There were guys in some parts of NYC and and LA turning vintage tees inside out and stencilling "witty" sayings on them about 5 years ago. I think it's a sign of too much money being controlled by too few braincells to buy a tee-shirt for $88. Go to Upper Playground or Threadless.com as someone else suggested, and you can get between 3 and 8 tees with cool graphics and no "ironic" sayings on them for the same cash. My New Pornographers tee is getting a little beaten up, so I may just turn it inside out and stencil "People who pay $88 for "vintage" tees are wankers." And I'll wear that to Barneys. Now that, that would be fun. BTW, if you guys have $88, send it my way, and I'll do up some of the same for you.
post #17 of 42
Although I agree, it is a little much for a t-shirt, how many things that we buy these days are really worth it, one such example is that Ferrari 360 Modena of mine, which I just posted a picture of, how much do you think that cost to make (R+D aside). How much do you think that your door handles were made for (forty English pence actually, it is one of my businesses) and we sell some for up to $100 a pair (although not the 40p ones) to real nutters. I'm not saying it's right, but just that it is the case with everything.
post #18 of 42
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Although I agree, it is a little much for a t-shirt, how many things that we buy these days are really worth it, one such example is that Ferrari 360 Modena of mine, which I just posted a picture of, how much do you think that cost to make (R+D aside). How much do you think that your door handles were made for (forty English pence actually, it is one of my businesses) and we sell some for up to $100 a pair (although not the 40p ones) to real nutters. I'm not saying it's right, but just that it is the case with everything.
The difference is that I cannot make a Ferrari myself, but can make a T-shirt with a funny saying.
post #19 of 42
Good point, but what about the initial investment.
post #20 of 42
The investment capital I'd need to make a Ferrari or even a door handle would be prohibitive. It costs next to nothing for me to stencil my t-shirt. And there are plenty of t-shirt companies who seem to be able to make a profit selling theirs for $20. Some of that $88 is a markup is going towards marketing, the rest purely for product placement purposes - and I figure that if someone is going to buy that hype, that someone is a wanker. If he can actually afford a $90 tee, he is a rich wanker. If he can't, he's merely a stupid wanker. BTW, there is a pretty cool vintage store here in Cambridge MA called Proletariat which sells reworked vintage (i.e. expensive secondhand) clothing for about $10 a t-shirt and $25 for jackets. They have pretty good picks and reasonable prices, including some pretty rare old concert tees. I recommend it.
post #21 of 42
I think you are misunderstanding, I am not saying it's right, but $20 is also too much for what it is. Whether it is $20 or $20 Billion, overpriced is overpriced, and that depends on the % markup.
post #22 of 42
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My New Pornographers tee is getting a little beaten up, so I may just turn it inside out and stencil "People who pay $88 for "vintage" tees are wankers." And I'll wear that to Barneys. Now that, that would be fun.
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post #23 of 42
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I think you are misunderstanding, I am not saying it's right, but $20 is also too much for what it is. Whether it is $20 or $20 Billion, overpriced is overpriced, and that depends on the % markup.
No, I understand. But my point is that I can get a comparable product just as easily elsewhere. There is nothing particularly value-added in a Taavo Somer tee - the designs aren't particularly special, the sayings are not particularly witty. The reason (I hope) that we like Kiton suits is that we can't get the same style and handiwork elsewhere for very much less. Same goes for a Ferrari, and even for your $100 door handles. On the other hand, I could make the same tee (and my tailoring skills truly suck) that's selling at Barney's and it would be indistinguishable. Actually, that's apparently how that company started. The founder moved to NYC, found he couldn't afford anything except for vintage tees, and so made his unique. He must think that it's a gas that his tees are now selling for close to $90 at just one of those frou-frou stores he could buy even, say, a t-shirt at
post #24 of 42
If people will pay $88 for a shirt, then the shirt is worth $88. Didn't any of you take econ?
post #25 of 42
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If people will pay $88 for a shirt, then the shirt is worth $88. Didn't any of you take econ?
Very true. Everything is going to be marked up. People will pay more for a 'good idea' or a 'special product' just because they can't get it anywhere else and they really like it.
post #26 of 42
You could try this website which has a fine selection of tee shirts, and etc. Oki-Ni
post #27 of 42
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Very true. Everything is going to be marked up. People will pay more for a 'good idea' or a 'special product' just because they can't get it anywhere else and they really like it.
I guess that it's just my skewed perceptions from hanging out with arty slackers who can't seem to get around to doing anything really productive but have no problem spending the weekend customizing their clothes.
post #28 of 42
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Yep, Taavo Somer is an example of a (barely) good idea run wild. There were guys in some parts of NYC and and LA turning vintage tees inside out and stencilling "witty" sayings on them about 5 years ago. I think it's a sign of too much money being controlled by too few braincells to buy a tee-shirt for $88. Go to Upper Playground or Threadless.com as someone else suggested, and you can get between 3 and 8 tees with cool graphics and no "ironic" sayings on them for the same cash. My New Pornographers tee is getting a little beaten up, so I may just turn it inside out and stencil "People who pay $88 for "vintage" tees are wankers." And I'll wear that to Barneys. Now that, that would be fun. BTW, if you guys have $88, send it my way, and I'll do up some of the same for you.
The New Pornographers, eh? Have you listened to the new Destroyer album? Superb... I've never heard of that Taavo Somer before but when I looked at the website, I have to say I was completely unimpressed... People in the "indie" scene particularly in L.A. have been doing that for years, and they pay $0.25 for the shirt, from a thrift store or a little more from a vintage consigment store. And they have more personalized phrases that are actually relevant to themself or their scene.
post #29 of 42
I have aquired some 40 year old shirt fabrics. Great dobbies, clip dots and jacquards. I plan to cut them into slim fitting short sleeve sport shirts with camp collars. The fabrics are great. Swiss, english and even some US made fabrics. It is amazing what this country once made.
post #30 of 42
I did some silk screening back in high school art class, and i don't remember it being too hard.  If you do it your self, there is probably a slightly expensive initial investment but it would go down as you used it, and it wouldn't cost as much as a Ferrari or it door handle.  I'm sure you could get the procedure on how to do it in an art book, that would explain it better than I could.  Blank tee shirts are dirt cheap, and you could probably sell your own designs, at least to make up the cost of the materials for silk screening.
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