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post #16 of 35
I've just been buying/selling on market swings of CNXT and JDSU (some of my fav tech companies, I used to own JDS when it was in the hundreds of dollars, but didn't buy there, thankfully) I bought a bunch of Conexant when it was under $0.60 and sold for $7 though, that put a smile on my face. I've been buying it on the way down and selling on the way up for pretty good effect.
post #17 of 35
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I personally wear a Bvlgari Solotiempo or a Tag F1 as a more fun sporty watch to wear, I think cheaper watches (except for Seiko, Timex, etc...) such as KC, Diesel, etc... are just throwing away money, as they are low quality and likely won't last long, and look fairly inexpensive. I do think Seiko, Timex, Citizen, are well made and durable watches, if not particularly stylish.
I don't know from what experience you are basing these claims, but I have had excellent luck with fossil-manufactured watches. I am wearing a Diesel watch right now that I like very much, and I absolutely do not consider it to be a knock-off of another company's design. In fact, I have never seen a watch like it (and in the case of the one I'm wearing, it's not a bad thing). Just because it's cheap doesn't mean that it's of sub-par design or quality. You don't buy a watch with a face that looks like a tachometer with a big fat leather strap so that people will gaze upon it and marvel at the art of its automatic guts. I appreciate a fine watch just as much as the next guy, but prestige comes to a halt when you get to the street. My watch cost me $90, and it's lasted a lot longer than other things I've spent more than $90 on, so really, I would have to say that it is a wise investment, as it is a miniscule one that yields many compliments. Sure it doesn't go with your Oxxford. But who wears an Oxxford every day anyway (I surely do not, and I doubt the original poster does either)? Having said all that, I like the examples of the Diesel watches you gave, I would recommend any of them, just go with whichever you think looks best on your wrist. I do recommend you stop by a Nordstrom (I've never seen one without a full collection of Diesel watches) to see how they look on you, because even if the photo looks great, it could be too large or small, or the leather might look awful against your skin and hair.
post #18 of 35
Fossil is notorious for putting out watches that are extremely similar to Tag Heuer, and Kenneth Cole is worse. A quick browse of Diesel's Timeframes store reveals a watch that is extremely similar to Bvlgari's Aluminum, and a huge selection of watches that are butt ugly, if not similar to anything that I can recognize. Personally I think a nice watch is one of the most important accessories a man can have, and recognize that my view on this is different than most others on this forum, I view a cheap watch as worse than a cheap suit.
post #19 of 35
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Fossil is notorious for putting out watches that are extremely similar to Tag Heuer, and Kenneth Cole is worse. A quick browse of Diesel's Timeframes store reveals a watch that is extremely similar to Bvlgari's Aluminum, and a huge selection of watches that are butt ugly, if not similar to anything that I can recognize. Personally I think a nice watch is one of the most important accessories a man can have, and recognize that my view on this is different than most others on this forum, I view a cheap watch as worse than a cheap suit.
Perhaps you should rethink your list of assessments that you consider your opinions on, knocking down "retail cost" a few spots. I don't like Kenneth Cole watches myself, but if it bothers yuppies so much, I might buy one, drive up to Dana Point, slap it on my wrist, walk around in my 5-year-old Clash t-shirt with an ultra slim YSL blazer on top, and throw in some ripped up Levis for good measure. Then when all the tools are stressing out because they can't get a spot at the bar in Gen Kai, they can see my senseless outfit and my high-contrast white earbuds, they'll shake their heads and feel uneasy around such trash, and I'll have successfully added one more thing to their stressful list. Ahhh, I can dream.
post #20 of 35
Retail cost isn't the issue, I think a well made Seiko, Citizen, or Timex watch is a fine accessory. However, aesthetics and quality of construction are as important to me in a watch as they are in a suit. Certainly you are paying a premium for marketing for a Tag over a Seiko which in a quartz movement watch is probably close in accuracy and build quality, but likely you are sacrificing aesthetic quality. However, with a Diesel, Fossil, KC, you are paying for the marketing to at least as high a degree, and certainly getting an inferior product, albeit a less expensive one.
post #21 of 35
If you wanted a more-or-less unique-looking watch, I've had my eye on this one for a while: The Solsuno watch - displays time in an analog fashion, that is, around a dial, but uses LEDs instead of hands to indicate the position of the hours, minutes and seconds.
post #22 of 35
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Perhaps you should rethink your list of assessments that you consider your opinions on, knocking down "retail cost" a few spots. I don't like Kenneth Cole watches myself, but if it bothers yuppies so much, I might buy one, drive up to Dana Point, slap it on my wrist, walk around in my 5-year-old Clash t-shirt with an ultra slim YSL blazer on top, and throw in some ripped up Levis for good measure. Then when all the tools are stressing out because they can't get a spot at the bar in Gen Kai, they can see my senseless outfit and my high-contrast white earbuds, they'll shake their heads and feel uneasy around such trash, and I'll have successfully added one more thing to their stressful list. Ahhh, I can dream
I'll wear not so box fresh Adidas Sambas, beat to hell jeans, a vintage tee (over a long sleeve tee for good measure,) a Wrangler blazer, and a Starck Fossil watch (I find the designs pretty nice, myself,) and join you. That would actually be quite fun.
post #23 of 35
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Retail cost isn't the issue, I think a well made Seiko, Citizen, or Timex watch is a fine accessory. However, aesthetics and quality of construction are as important to me in a watch as they are in a suit. Certainly you are paying a premium for marketing for a Tag over a Seiko which in a quartz movement watch is probably close in accuracy and build quality, but likely you are sacrificing aesthetic quality. However, with a Diesel, Fossil, KC, you are paying for the marketing to at least as high a degree, and certainly getting an inferior product, albeit a less expensive one.
Interestingly enough, I agree with this as well, to some degree. IMHO, and I am not a watch expert, a Fossil is just as reliable, and probably more durable that an intricate, but quite delicate Patek automatic. Saying a Fossil is less durable than a high end watch is sort of like saying that Dickies or real fatigues are less durable than a beautifully constructed Attolini. Because I don't care so much about the prestige of owning a Patek, and can't really afford one in any case, I choose watches primarily for the the design of *some* Diesel watches, and I really do like the Starck range. The Kenneth Coles and most Emporio Armani watches (also made by Fossil) I simply don't buy because I think that they are ugly. Then again, I've seen some really ugly Chopards as well, and those were *expensive*.
post #24 of 35
In my personal experience with Fossil quartz movements, the quality is decent, but in terms of longevity I have owned three and neither has lasted longer than 3-4 years without some sort of mechanical issue. I have had much more success with Seiko, Timex, and Citizen watches. My brother is actually still using a Timex watch that I gave him 15 years ago (after I'd used it for maybe 5-6 years myself) and it is fine. The quality of a quartz movement from Tag Heuer, Breitling, Bvlgari, etc. is far superior to that of a Fossil, etc... but it should be as it is much more expensive. Once you get into automatic movements then the durability question is certainly debatable even with fairly inexpensive quartz movements, but that's another issue altogether. While I completely disagree with how Details set up an outfit with $800 suit, $100 shirt, $80 tie, and $20,000 watch, I think that if you are wearing stylish and expensive clothes and a cheap watch, it totally ruins the image, just my opinion.
post #25 of 35
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While I completely disagree with how Details set up an outfit with $800 suit, $100 shirt, $80 tie, and $20,000 watch, I think that if you are wearing stylish and expensive clothes and a cheap watch, it totally ruins the image, just my opinion.
Not sure what the objection is. It doesn't matter how much the clothes cost, it matters how well they are put together. I once saw a guy wearing a Borrelli/Attolini/Kiton/in any case obviously expensive and well cut Neapolitan style sports jacket and shirt and a pair of very beautiful looking pair of wool pants, and what I assumed to be extremely expensive shoes, *and* a IWC Portugese. Everything was well fitting, and the guy was pretty fit, but he still managed to look the complete boob. It was a reverse miracle. On the flip side, I know a guy whose every third day uniform is a thrift store blazer he found in some god awful place, an APC shirt as old as APC itself, unbuttoned, with some vintage teeshirt that he has vintagized himself (in the time honored way of having worn the tee shirt since high school), a pair of rather expensive Costume National twill pants (a gift), and either old Prada boots of some sort of decidedly non-collectors edition sneakers, and a Cartier watch (also a gift), and it looks great. Sometimes the sum of the parts... And besides, high-low dressing is really the way to go anyway (drizzt3117, as a west coast guy, you ought to know this&#33 If you *really* want to emulate the East Coast preppy/old boys club brahmins (something I don't encourage,) you'll find this a lot.
post #26 of 35
i find Diesel watches to be too trendy but that's my personal taste. I have a Swatch Irony and I am satisfied with it. It's cheap and I have been wearing it for 6 years now. I must admit I had to change the bracelet since i had the original bubberband-type one and it broke.
post #27 of 35
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Not sure what the objection is.
My guess is that drizzt3117 was referring to the all-too-common combination of a suit and a chunky digital watch.  I don't care who you are -- Andre 3000, Jude Law, David Beckham, Brad Pitt, etc. -- no one can make that work.
post #28 of 35
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So, the purpose of my buying a diesel watch is really a short-term fix before buying a better (read more expensive) watch in a couple of months. I am personally very fond of the styling (I find the watches I picked out pretty individual and not really copycats of higher end designs), wouldn't ever wear the watch with a suit (unless I was wearing it w/ sneakers)  and just really want something that looks kind of cool so that I don't have to keep looking at my cell phone for the time.   My last watch - a vintage Hamilton/Art Deco series (a gorgeous watch by the way) decided to stop running and is currently in the shop for a whlie... I am fully aware that the watch likely won't last for a decade and frankly don't care.  I plan on wearing the thing for "at an absolute most" a year or so and if it lasts that long, I'll consider it a $50 bucks well spent.  I also fully well agree that timex/seiko/citizen... probably make more reliable watches, but many of their designs are a bit boring for my taste...If I wanted an estate piece to pass down to my kids or something, I'd invest in a patek.   I also agree with LA Guy, its more about how you put a look together than how much the individual pieces cost.  Also, I think an ugly watch (no matter how expensive) ruins an outfit significantly more easily than an inexpensive watch that better fits your personal style.   I personally think the watches would look kind of cool with a pair of PDCs, cool sneakers, an untucked paul smith shirt and a fred perry track jacket.  Maybe I'd throw on a blazer and be what LA Guy likes to call an "American Jackass" On a last note, I'd much rather wear one of the aforementioned diesel watches than pretty much anything in Tag Heuer's collection (perhaps excluding perhaps the monaco series).  Just not my personal style.... It seems like every tool (and I see alot of them in investment banking) that gets his first big bonus picks up a Tag kirium/2000 series and things he's the pinnacle of style. If I was spending $2k+ on a watch, I'd much rather pick up an IWC...or for something sportier an omega seamaster.   I do kind of like the digital f1 series, but if I was picking up a digital watch, I'd probably go for the Hermes Espace Digital (a damn fine looking watch in my opinion). Don't get me started on marketing.  I agree that you're paying a decent amount of marketing costs for a diesel/fossil watch, but it doesn't compare to the proportion that Tag spend advertising....not to mention how much cereal companies spend ($1+ per box)...and I'm not giving up my frosted mini wheats either.... Also, I've seen the Nixon watches as well and really like some of them.  Also agree with CT Guy about the saturation of Diesel products in the market, but fell that it is a bit more prevalent with shoes than with watches.  Also still a fan of the jeans too....
post #29 of 35
I was going more along the lines of what Ambulance Chaser was saying, if you look at the latest details (well the one with leblanc on the cover) and look at some of their outfits, it's just ridiculous looking. I don't have issues wearing Bvlgari, Breitling, Rolex, etc... with Jeans/vintage T/pumas, but in my opinion some of the high/low outfits they put together look pretty neat until you get to the $20k bling bling gold watch that completely throws off the outfit, but I guess you could get that look with a gold movado or knock-off seiko gold watch equally easily.
post #30 of 35
Well everyone's personal style is different. I do agree that the Kirium and some other Tags are played out and everyone has them. I do like the link series as well as the Carerra, Monaco, and Targa Florio, as well as the F1 series (I had one of the original F1s, and just got a nice black faced chrono for $500 or so) I guess the Diesel, KC, Hugo Boss, and some other watches just scream faux-Euro to me, and not in a good way. They remind me of something you'd see on some extra in Eurotrip in a club scene... Just my personal opinion, generally I am a big fan of dive/pilot style watches though, so that may cloud my judgment.
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