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post #76 of 91
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just to add, i see what you guys are saying, this comes across as more cantankerous than i intend it to be in print...
post #77 of 91
My point would be "what impact has each city had on world fashion in the past two decades" and in my opinion, LA has had a larger impact than any of the cities that you've mentioned. If you had been to Europe in the early/mid 90s you would see hardly anyone wearing denim. Now, it's as ubtiquous as it is in the US. In terms of more formal wear, who has had the largest impact on world fashion? I think it would be difficult to argue that LA and Hollywood dictate much of what the world sees in terms of high fashion, whether or not they created those garments is more or less irrelevant.
post #78 of 91
In terms of high fashion, name five designers based out of london...
Also Vivienne Westwood who is a legend, Boudicca, Kim Jones, Jonathan Saunders, et al. In LA there is also Ron Herman I believe.
post #79 of 91
Thread Starter 
My point would be "what impact has each city had on world fashion  in the past two decades"
first of all, is the majority of "hollywood" from LA?? second of all, paris still dictates high fashion--haute couture. milan has enormous impact with all the designers coming from there. hip-hop comes from nyc and it is arguable that hip hop--fashion-wise and culturally--has had the largest impact on popular culture over the past 20 years, hands down. all of these things i would have to say are more important than LA's impact on casual dress. i'm sorry.
post #80 of 91
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labelking, you raise a major point, i can't believe i forgot viviene westwood. she created the punk look. that is a major impact on fashion coming out of london.
post #81 of 91
Kim Jones, and Jonathan Saunders are both menswear designers. Think fluoroscent clothing reminiscent of 80's Kenzo. London tends to have fairly obscure cultish designers with eccentric philsophies.
post #82 of 91
I think there are those who would disagree that hip-hop is a east coast phenemonon, furthermore, high fashion is simply that, high fashion, although it can trickle down into the clothing worn by the average person, and can concievably set trends, I think the overall impact of Parisian/Milanese design houses have little impact on the clothing worn by the average person, while the broader trends that originate from the West Coast have had a significantly larger impact. If we take the argument away from design houses and their locations and change it to the denizens of each individual city and their impact on world fashion, I think you'll find the difference is even greater. In the end, all you have to do is ask your self whether America is more or less casual than it was two decades ago, and why (where) that trend started. If the European fashion capitals and NYC had a larger impact, I would imagine everyone would be wearing more formal wear, at least on the most macro of levels. If you were asking which locale has had a larger impact on the denizens of this forum, I believe the answer would be quite different.
post #83 of 91
Thread Starter 
I think there are those who would disagree that hip-hop is a east coast phenemonon
its not that i said hip-hop solely exists on the east coast. i said it comes from nyc--it originated in the bronx.
post #84 of 91
Isn't Richard Tyler based out of LA?
For those of you who have been to both somewhat recently. How would you compare Louis Boston to Wilkes Bashford?
They are totally different stores IMO. Not comparable at all. Wilkes is much more spectacular and eye-catching. The fabric and color selection is the best I have ever seen. The level of taste and talent is incredibly high. The cut of his tailored clothing tends to be extremely classic as well. Basically, Wilkes embodies a very sophisticated Italian take on English classics. Louis on the other hand, is much more subtle, and more fashion forward. The colors are more muted, the cuts are softer, and there is a lot more street-inspired sportswear. It's a different look. I think both stores are absolutely tops, which you prefer will depend on your taste. As for the shoe department, Wilkes (or should I say Wilson & Dean, as it's a concession) has a much deeper selection at the moment. Louis, on the other hand, is more selective with their buying, and with Vass, carry a much higher quality shoe than anything you can buy at Wilkes.
post #85 of 91
Well, Mr. Harris, you remind me that I haven't seen any new Richard Tyler clothes in several years. I have two Richard Tyler jackets and despite a certain flamboyance they are both classic pieces--one is black gabardine with nice waist supression and a high center vent in the British style and the other is single-breasted with peak lapels and double vents made of a stretch mohair. The tailoring and construction are superb. I'll have to dig those out of the closet (but I'll probably leave the yellow silk shantung pants for another day).
post #86 of 91
out of curiousity, brian sd, was wondering where you get your jil sander and dior in diego?? i was out there a summer ago with one of my boys who lives in la mesa and he was saying he can't find any of the clothes he's looking for in SD.
To answer your question, I don't get my clothes in San Diego. SD has the worst buyers that I've ever come across for every store down here. I go up to LA to look around, and then often check online for sales, or occasionally buy something at full retail - and when I do, its usually through a phone order. Maxfield LA, which LA Guy pointed out, is my favorite place that I've been to. I've done phone / faxing orders to the D-Homme boutique in New York (that was before the one in LA was built), and occasionally some designers will send me a shirt straight from their houses, not through a boutique. Despite the lack of high fashion selling down here, the local independent fashion design is phenomenal, albeit tiny. It lacks all of the dirty electroclash-isms of the LA indie scene and has a very distinct, naturalist appeal. I've been to a few fashion shows down here and I've always really liked it; it's very tied into the local music scene, which at its most local level, is quite mindblowing (if you're interested, you should check out GoGoGo Airheart, and Kill Me Tomorrow). I think they might have an Ambercrombie somewhere in La Mesa. If you want to see the all-American jackass, please do visit us down here, you'll love it. We have plenty of them - probably due largely in part to the HUGE Greek presence on campus, and the fact that SD has the highest concentration of college students in the country. Oh, and on the subject that I missed over the last few pages (am I still typing here?), I do think that a majority of American style comes straight of L.A. Hands down, I don't have the education to back that up nor the wordsmithing to make it sound eloquent; the best I can do is throw my vote on that side. It generally takes at least a few seasons for L.A. trends to start picking up in San Diego, but they definitely come and go.
post #87 of 91
I am actually a fan of Hedi Slimane YSL era, more than I am a fan of the Dior era. It has the same sharp, architectural lines, but doesn't look so Hot Topic-esque as Dior Homme.
Gentlemen, my first post, and I can barely type I'm laughing so hard. I recently bought a black "Stewey" from "Family Guy" elastic terrycloth wrist sweatband from Hot Topic in a mall in Scottsdale Arizona (that's another whole story) and I recall thinking that the very young salesbot was *so* Slimanian from head to toe. How many $9/hr. work weeks does it take for one to appropriately equip oneself for mallwork?
post #88 of 91
Erm, without being too on-topic, re: Y-3 -- kind of an uneven branding concept, space alien meets jock, but I do have a marvelous black sweatshirt/outerwear thing that's made of the coolest perforated space alien fabric and some interesting black on black logo treatments. It's nice and tightly tailored and perfect to throw on over a ($200 Versace, naturally ) t-shirt for a cool-but-not-cold San Francisco afternoon. But other than that, I never found anything really astonishing about the much-hyped collaboration.
post #89 of 91
If you want to talk about dior homme and such, please do so in a non sarcastic manner without putting down people with different taste in clothing. There are plenty of people (like me for example) in this forum that share your interests in streetwear. Many of us will be glad to share our opinions on any subject. What i love about this forum is the diversity of labels being discussed and such. I would hate it if all we talked about was dior homme this or oxxford that. Beisdes, the most interesting people in these forum are people whose knowledge covers a wide spectrum of styles, such as LA guy and men like A.Harris, who know thier stuff. You can learn a lot from this place.
post #90 of 91
If you want to talk about dior homme and such, please do so in a non sarcastic manner without putting down people with different taste in clothing.
I'm not certain you're referring to my recent post, but if you are, I'm mortified that you would take offense. I adore -- rather -- DIOR Slimane's trim line and only wish I could wear it, without such major alterations needed for my big ass. I simply found the Hot Topic reference amusing. Perhaps I should have been less potentially misinterpretable. If I am not the big ass to whom you are referring, never mind.
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