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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
I've been reading about seven fold ties recently... I saw some nice Talbotts when I was shopping around trying on suits...

What's the deal with seven fold ties? Are they really all that they are hyped up to be?
post #2 of 26
They're different. Depends on your taste. They have their place, but so do "regular" ties.
post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 
So what is the "place" of a seven fold? The ones I saw were very pretty..

I know a tuxedo has its "place"... You certainly wouldn't wear one to work... Just curious about seven folds... .
post #4 of 26
Do a search. There's a lot of info already posted on seven fold ties.
post #5 of 26
There is no "true place" for a 7-fold tie. It's merely a variation to the whole tie thing. Supposedly denotes ultra-luxury, whereupon a single, large piece of silk is folded upon itself to the shape of a tie.

On average it would tie a thicker knot than most ties, but a heavy gauge wool or silk or a tie with a hefty lining will also do the same.
post #6 of 26
Seven-fold ties seem invariably gaudy.
post #7 of 26
What Lee said.
post #8 of 26
Mostly hype IMO.

Unlined 7-folds can be cool though they're a somewhat unique look.

If you want a thick tie knot, I think a 3-fold with a nice interlining will work well and be a bit cheaper.
post #9 of 26
I bought a seven fold. The knot it made was astonishingly small and silly looking. My Zegna, Massimo Bizzochi and Tino Cosma non-seven folds with heavier linings tie a much better knot.
post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post
Mostly hype IMO.

Unlined 7-folds can be cool though they're a somewhat unique look.


If you want a thick tie knot, I think a 3-fold with a nice interlining will work well and be a bit cheaper.

I like unlined 7 folds a lot, but only in silks that will not make a thick knots. Also, IMO they are better in prints than wovens.

On the other hand, I weekly win the award for most hated ties on SF, so my opinion might not be all that useful.
post #11 of 26
Thread Starter 
I knew you guys wouldn't let me down... Thanks...
post #12 of 26
I have several Kitons (double 4 folds) and the benefit is the softness of the silk and thicker knots for spread collar shirts. I like them. They tend to be very well made since that are kind of an artisan product.
post #13 of 26
As others have said, it's a mode of construction. I've seen some 7 folds eg Daniel Cremieux, that are thick and stiff as a board, whilst the kiton, isaias that I've bought from SF'ers have been supple and luxurious, tying a medium sized knot. the better ones tend to have the better silks too, but not always. I'd pick the colour/ pattern, quality of the silk before considering whether a tie is seven fold or not.
post #14 of 26
Jyook, The Talbotts are real unlined seven-folds so they are a good place to start your comparisons. Most seven-folds are actually lined six-folds especially the Italian "seven-folds". Both constructions are elegant and require more silk and time to make than a standard three-fold. From a point of view of hand-craftmanship they often are what they are hyped to be. From a practical point of view unlined six-folds are much more popular as they tend not to wrinkle as much and have a nice solid feeling. We make both daily (as well as standard three-folds and other constructions) so I am neutral. Although my personal preference for most silks is a lined six-fold construction. At times I will also wear a three, four or very rarely a five-fold tie. Note, when I say four-fold I mean exactly four folds. Not a "double four-fold" which is a marketing term used by one or two tie-brands for six-fold constructions and not an actual construction used by tie-makers. Unless you admire the elegance and drape of a six or seven-fold construction I would stay with a three-fold.
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I've been reading about seven fold ties recently... I saw some nice Talbotts when I was shopping around trying on suits... What's the deal with seven fold ties? Are they really all that they are hyped up to be?
post #15 of 26
Is this a seven-fold? Maybe it's a six, as I believe one of the distinguishing characteristics of a seven is the asymmetrical folds.
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