not ness., i did 3 different photo shoots of the shoes from 2 diff. locations, and it was easier to photo each shoe in stock rather than compare pics, also it gave me a reference to stock when checking for people calling in for avail....it was an ease of info situation for me....not trying to be confusing...sorry...however, after some quotes being made last night, i believe we will refrain from posting any longer...seems some people are not happy about the discussions about special deals, and i do not want to upset anyone in this or any forum, the people here have been too nice and understanding. but, if you have any question, except tuesdays i am always avail. if you have any questions. thanks to all of the fine people who have been the easiest customers i have had to deal with, i wish the average consumer could be so in tune with quality and craftsmanship as you all, and yet be as understanding and patient as well when trying to get something in demand. kudos to all members of both the style forum and ask andy.