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post #3526 of 4261
It seems like Microsoft aimed for making an entire entertainment system experience whereas Sony is looking to make more of a pure gaming console. I'd rather have a standalone gaming console. I don't play vs people online much and I don't care to be attached to my tv. I don't even have cable anymore.

I mean, that Microsoft conference from a couple weeks ago had to use the word "tv" dozens of times. It's like they want to put the final nail in the coffin of kids having a social life that extends beyond their living room.

The lack of backward compatibility is such a dick move. I also don't get why the new GTA title isn't just being launched on the nextgen consoles. Why release the game in September when a new console is coming in December? Seems really stupid to me.
post #3527 of 4261
Honestly, I might not buy either as my gaming time has been dwindling faster than Conne's chances of finally losing his v-card.

Any gaming I've done in the last two years has been on the PC, aside from some Guitar Hero/Rock Band stuff at friend's places and a couple of hours at FFXIII and Gran Turismo 5.

If you pointed a gun at my head I'd say PS4, simply because I'm familiar with the controller, game ecosystem, and Sony in general having never owned an XBox product.
post #3528 of 4261

Jesus fuck Mattrick actually said that people without internet can buy the 360. crackup[1].gif Are they trying to ruin this for themselves?

 

post #3529 of 4261
360 is the new Windows XP.
post #3530 of 4261
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Originally Posted by worakl View Post

Jesus fuck Mattrick actually said that people without internet can buy the 360. crackup[1].gif
 Are they trying to ruin this for themselves?


What is your beef?
post #3531 of 4261
Can anyone actually argue that the Xbox One is the superior console? I've yet to hear anything close to that.
post #3532 of 4261
I don't it needs to be to win the console war.
post #3533 of 4261
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

Sony seems to be much more nimble this go around than MS, that much is obvious. The pricing strategy in particular was a masterstroke - although I'd imagine a similar system loadout (with eye, etc) will come close to Xbox1's base price. I'm still not convinced Sony has done enough to address its wonky online interface and experience - and as I said before, this will be the feature(s) that make or break the race in the long run. The leaked video of some of the features was ok but a few years behind where the 360 is today. With regards to exclusive content, its a draw - I'd probably feel differently if FF15 was an Sony exclusive.

All the gripe over always online and DRM is pretty funny to me. DRM has already happened in PC land where all the "big" games are now distributed online. This will be the future of consoles as well and will be even more relevant when the cloud really kicks in. I get the arguments about the always online but come on people...with very few exceptions, if you are buying a $500 system you should be able to afford an internet connection.

Lets say that Sony doesn't make a good interface, speculation of course since neither of us know what it is, at the end of the day that's just software. Software can be updated. Do you remember what the original Xbox 360's interface looked like? And please, for the love of god, stop comparing the Xbox One to Steam. Microsoft seemingly wants the positives of both physical and digital without any of the necessary concessions of either. The fact is that DRM and unnecessary always online just introduce more points of failure. It's not that we're cheap, it's not that we can't afford internet (though many certainly don't have good connections), it's not that we're entitled. If they want an always online, digital distribution only future they need to show us why we should want it and what they're doing to facilitate it. More convenience and lower prices would be a nice start, which should be created through realistic expectations and non-bloated budgets from publishers.

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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

The DRM thing is pretty funny. People always scream and yell and loudly proclaim that no one will ever buy the system/game/whatever... And then it goes on to set sales records.

This is not to say that I don't find a lot of DRM pointless and even hostile to the end user--just that for all the stink made about it, the vast majority of consumers just don't care.

Records sales? Why yes, I've already preordered my PS4.
post #3534 of 4261
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Records sales? Why yes, I've already preordered my PS4.

Record sales are not at all analogous. That was trying to sell a medium people didn't use anymore (CDs) while refusing to provide the medium that they did (digital).

A more apt example would be Steam, which when it first came out, was decried as the end of modern civilization as we know it. It's since been incredibly successful. Or the recent Sims fiasco--the game *still* set all sorts of sales records.

Again, I hate DRM and think it's pointless--it penalizes your customers while doing nothing to prevent piracy. My point is simply that the vast majority of consumers either don't know or don't care enough to change their purchasing habits.
post #3535 of 4261
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Originally Posted by lesamourai View Post

Records sales? Why yes, I've already preordered my PS4.

Record sales are not at all analogous. That was trying to sell a medium people didn't use anymore (CDs) while refusing to provide the medium that they did (digital).

A more apt example would be Steam, which when it first came out, was decried as the end of modern civilization as we know it. It's since been incredibly successful. Or the recent Sims fiasco--the game *still* set all sorts of sales records.

Again, I hate DRM and think it's pointless--it penalizes your customers while doing nothing to prevent piracy. My point is simply that the vast majority of consumers either don't know or don't care enough to change their purchasing habits.

It was a joke about sales records being set from the amount of people purchasing a PS4. I wasn't talking about vinyl records.

Once again, if you want to compare it to Steam you would have to look at what Steam did to make it work. The convenience and price point, something that Microsoft apparently hasn't picked up on, nor do I think they could implement if they wanted.
post #3536 of 4261

THEY'RE REMAKING FLASHBACK!!!!!!

 

ORIGINAL CREATIVE IS INVOLVED!

post #3537 of 4261
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Originally Posted by grundletaint View Post

360 is the new Windows XP.

Which would mean that the xb1 is the new Windows ME, right? You'd think MS would have learned that lesson...
post #3538 of 4261
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/139706-microsofts-new-kinect-patent-goes-big-brother-will-spy-on-you-for-the-mpaa
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Microsoft’s new Kinect patent goes Big Brother, will spy on you for the MPAA

Microsoft has filed for a Kinect-related patent, and it’s a doozy of an application. The abstract describes a camera-based system that would monitor the number of viewers in a room and check to see if the number of occupants exceeded a certain threshold set by the content provider. If there are too many warm bodies present, the device owner would be prompted to purchase a license for a greater number of viewers.

No, really. It’s that blunt. From the abstract: “The users consuming the content on a display device are monitored so that if the number of user-views licensed is exceeded, remedial action may be taken.”
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post #3540 of 4261

I don't have any horse in this race; I was and will never be a console gamer. I don't really care too much about the whole debate but good god above in heaven is that kinect monitoring absolutely obscenely ridiculous.
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