Originally Posted by JapanAlex01
^ Ok, a fan boy who obviously doesn't know much about games.
True, I loved the first two games when I was a kid and assumedly this makes me a fan boy. And I barely play video games.
My problem with F3 isn't that it's a 3d game. I am optimistic about NV, and it's a 3d game. My problem is that it's bland. It's uninteresting. It's a stupid FPS point and click designed to appeal to people who don't want to think. And it's not just poorly written and plotted - it's abysmally
written and plotted. We've had video games for a good two-plus-decades now in more or less their present form, it's about time to start treating this like any other medium and allow for something besides flashy visuals, fast-paced clicking and "cool shit" that makes no sense. All of that is even fine from time to time for mindless enjoyment's sake, but to see a series that was one of the better executed VG's of all time re-launched ten years later and stripped of everything that made it good, transformed into "just another shooter"... sucked.
What I want out of fallout is an irreverently witty, satirical atmosphere that pits the altogether-too-wholesome culture of the 50's stereotype against the stark, lord-of-the-flies-philosophy concept of what the world is like once all society has gone to hell in a handbasket. It's bleak and at the same time somehow hilarious. The enjoyment of those games was not from shooting things, it was from finding things, exploring things, consequences, from environments and societies and interactions with characters who had some actual depth, even though many were tropes designed to hammer home some theme (i.e. Lynette in Vault City). Most of what happened in those first two games did not happen as the result of weaponry (unless you made it so, and in doing so you'd miss 80% of the game). F1 and F2 weren't artistic masterpieces in the form of video games, they were often pretty hamhanded, but they were a lot better than most games. Why, in ten years and with the industry much more developed, has there been no progress?
Instead of a nostalgic trip back to that interesting and nuanced (from a gaming perspective) world, we got a half-decent shooter with a thin, nonsensical backstory that seemed to have been developed as an afterthought. Whoever wrote the dialogue must actually be retarded, or ESL, one of the two; a lot of it actually reads like a bad translation. People complain about writing in JRPGs, but those are INTENDED to be spectacularly cheesy and camp, it's genre. This isn't. And this is worse. None of it has any charm and as a result the interactions are wholly uninteresting. The two main factions in F3 are uprooted from the previous game and planted in a new setting where they have no place. It's immediately forced. The previous "grey" motivations of those factions are gone, one is now a bunch of white knights and the other unambiguously evil. Similarly, super mutants are planted so that we have something to shoot at, and robbed of all depth. All of this is weakly and nonsensically explained away in a futile effort to patch up the plot holes it creates. I mean you could write forever about the violence that game did to the previous two but I haven't got the patience. All of this could perhaps have been forgiven had the story made any sense, but it didn't. That's also something that could be written about ad nauseum, and has, like this dude did. http://www.treyconnell.com/fallout-3-strange-plot/
I just can't enjoy a game when I'm constantly going "this is sooooooo stuuuuuuupid."