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post #31 of 37
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the diet itself has little to do with EAS supplements. mr. phillips does interject some 'suggestions' for 'improving' the diet, if i remember correctly.  
EVERYTHING in Muscle Media has to do with EAS supplements. And before you even try to contest that, do a little research and find the parent company that owns Muscle Media. I'll give you a hint... it's EAS.
post #32 of 37
yes, i know that. bill phillips = EAS = body-for-life = musclemedia = (now) high point media (at least that was true when this article was written...he has since stepped down as head of EAS and musclemedia, AFAIK), but read the ABCDE article: the main principle is 14 days of high-calorie eating, and 14 days of low- or maintenance-calorie eating. bill is the only one who pushes the supplements in the article, IIRC. just ignore bill, listen to torbjorn akerfeldt. the ABCDE program is referenced elsewhere on the web as well, including bodybuilding.com, and Muscle and Fitness, a competitor to the EAS conglomerate. so it's not married to EAS, it's its own thing. /andrew
post #33 of 37
Yeah, supposedly the T-Mag version was quite good. Of course, I think it's offline now that T-Mag has descended into some kind of online store. Anyway, I still think there are better bulking diets out there. I personally a slower increase in muscle mass with minimal fat gain as opposed to as much LBM as possible. Another problem I see with ABCDE is that hormonal balance changes much quicker than the cycles do. 2 weeks at calories restriction will put you in hormonal hell, and will probably cause novices to jump into the bulking phase sooner. I think with strict calorie control throughout the diet, it would be effective, but I'd be extremely weary of attempting at low body fat levels when your body is bending over backwards to put on fat. Lots of good things have been said about the training/nutritional info at http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com. Yeah, they make supplements, but all they make is protein powders and creatine. I doubt you'll find a body builder or nutrition expert in the country that will deny the effectiveness of those two supps. Except liquid creatine, that stuff is crap. Edit: Link was misspelled.
post #34 of 37
my 0.02$ I dont want to start a flame or anything like that, but I feel the need to call BS on some of the advice given on this board when it comes to training, and especially weightloss. The secret behind weightloss is simple ; just consume less cals than you burn everyday. Start off by finding your maintance level (how many cals that you have to consume in order to stay at the same weight), then cut it by 200. This combined with a weightlifting/cardio schedule should give you some decent results. You should aim to drop 1lbs-1.5lbs a week and take it slowly from there. You might wanna read this for a start : http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=156 and check out www.wannabebig.com for more articles/tips. and if you have any questions, post them at WannaBeBigForums i can honestly say that this is the best forum out there when it comes to training.
post #35 of 37
I been weight training for almost 10 years, I have seen many guys gain wieght and losing weight. According to what I have experienced personally and witnessed from other people , the best way(s) to lose weight is following way: 1. Diet. Eat distributed even amount of calories. Never over eat. 2. Cardio. Wanna lose weight and keep it off? Then boost your metabolic level by enduring your longativty muscle tissues. Cardio training exactly does that. 3. Weight training. Weight training itself does not melt away fat. you will actually look bulkier if you do weight training alone. What you need to do is combine cardio and weight training. This way you are exerting muscle tissue so that its buring calories even while you sleep. Do all that persistanly than I guarantee that you will drop wieght and stay dropped. PS: You cannot not pick and choose where you want to lose weight. Everyone varies in where they lose fat first, but in most cases arms or face. Last resource is the belly. Thus if you have lost sufficient amount of fat on other body parts, you'll see your belly starts to move in ..
post #36 of 37
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my 0.02$ I dont want to start a flame or anything like that, but I feel the need to call BS on some of the advice given on this board when it comes to training, and especially weightloss. The secret behind weightloss is simple ; just consume less cals than you burn everyday. Start off by finding your maintance level (how many cals that you have to consume in order to stay at the same weight), then cut it by 200. This combined with a weightlifting/cardio schedule should give you some decent results. You should aim to drop 1lbs-1.5lbs a week and take it slowly from there. You might wanna read this for a start : http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=156 and check out www.wannabebig.com for more articles/tips. and if you have any questions, post them at WannaBeBigForums i can honestly say that this is the best forum out there when it comes to training.
If you've correctly gauged your metabolic rate/caloric expenditure and cut 200 calories a day, you'd be losing less than a half pound per week (~3500 calories per pound, -200 calories x 7 days a week = -1400 calories = ~ 2/5ths of a pound lost per week = nowhere near 1-1.5lbs a week). A deficit of less than 500 calories a day is so unbelievably slow most people would rather accept being fat than deal with the frustration of dieting for months on end. Also, since the deficit is so low, your body will adjust to it within a few weeks and you'd be losing miniscule amount or no fat at all and far more susceptable to fatigue. Since you mention WannaBeBig.com, there are a couple interviews with Lyle McDonald, whom I've already mentioned in this thread, on that site. I highly suggest everyone interested in the subject of fatloss read them. Few people on the planet have an understanding of partitioning and fat loss comparable to Lyle's. Edit: Spelling error.
post #37 of 37
Yes you are correct that a deficit of 200cals a day will not give you huge results, but I threw that number out there as a starting point. I dont believe that just swithcing over to a diet with, ie, a deficit of 1500cal is the way to go, but rather slowly go from maintance level and down to a level where one is comfortable with the weightloss. I believe that one should start off with a deficit of around 200cals a day and see how that works (for a couple of days/ a week just to get a feeling for the diet), after all, we all have different metabolic rates. And then work down to a deficit level that gives one the desired results and one is comfortable with. Sure, after sometime the weightloss will stagnate, which then it is necessary to reduce the intake of cals once again and etc.
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