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post #31 of 52
So vero, Anything interesting pop up in the recent wave of nytimes-generated interest? Just nosy - er, curious.
post #32 of 52
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I've added new ones to the original list.
post #33 of 52
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(BjornH @ 28 Sep. 2004, 01:49)
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Originally Posted by faustian bargain,28 Sep. 2004, 12:20
doesn't that blocking strategy only work for the hosts you specify in the 'hosts' file? in other words it only works for known 'predators', to coin a phrase. to more broadly protect your IP info from unknown 'predators' i guess you need some different kind of strategy.
Oh yes, it's a very specific change and therefore can be easly tackled. This is done in the network layer but the correct way to do this is to instruct the browser not to fetch content outside the original domain. Explorer, or other browsers I know of, will not let you do this and this would break many sites for the user. A realistic way of doing this would be for J to disallow external avatars and only allow local avatars, hosted by styleforum. He could then allow us to upload our custom avatars but they could not be used to track us (except by J, of course&#33. I don't know if Iconboard allows for this but I put this to J for consideration. B
I don't understand why this is such a big deal. You ought to consider the ip address you browse with public knowledge since you're leaving traces of it at every site you visit. If you're genuinely concerned with people knowing your ip address, then browse via a proxy. It'll slow things down for you but that's the tradeoff. You can also disable avatars in the control panel here but then things become that much less interesting. -Tom
Don't forget that any image embedded into any web page will do the same thing. If you wanted security from this by disabling external avatars we would also have to disallow all posting of inline images which is a large part of the content of this board. The only option would be the individual user turning off images in his browser except from trusted domains (don't know how possible that is) or browsing everything through an anonymizing proxy. It's good knowledge to have though. Remember your IP goes out with every request your browser makes, not just every post. That means every page, every separate page element like pictures, flash, etc. all leaves a record (if it's set up to) on the webserver where it resides, every time you request it (i.e. view it).
post #34 of 52
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The only option would be the individual user turning off images in his browser except from trusted domains (don't know how possible that is) or browsing everything through an anonymizing proxy.
How do you browse through an anonymizing proxy? I'd be very interested if anyone knows how.
post #35 of 52
Who cares? I've been looking at porn and clothing sites. There. Now everyone knows. The government is too busy browsing the internet to be out to get you.
post #36 of 52
I guess I go a little ruffled reading vero's post and I was not sure from what source he got his data. The way he gets his ip addresses/host names makes this the information just a curiosity, nothing more. The only way this could compromise our so called anonymity, is if he could correlate our postings ,and therefore our handles, with those ip addresses. Nobody can do that except J. What's more, many of the ip addresses will not tell you anything. Mine will show up as an ip address belonging to my ISP and will not tell you any more. If you are browsing from work or school then of course that can reveal a little more. I'm not very protective of my identity. If you like, you can find out a lot of things about me in my postings including pictures of me. Nevertheless, after reading vero's post I perceived it as an attempt to undermine whatever anonimity we have here and I felt that was not to our advantage. I'm much calmer now   and perhaps vero did not consider this aspect as he is not the least bit shy about his identity. } end rant Ze Bear
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I guess I go a little ruffled reading vero's post and I was not sure from what source he got his data. The way he gets his ip addresses/host names makes this the information just a curiosity, nothing more.
That's right. That's why it's "a little game."
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What's more, many of the ip addresses will not tell you anything. Mine will show up as an ip address belonging to my ISP and will not tell you any more. If you are browsing from work or school then of course that can reveal a little more.
Yep. The majority of "locations" I can see are simply ISPs. I don't include those in my list above because that wouldn't allow the game to be very interesting.
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I'm not very protective of my identity. If you like, you can find out a lot of things about me in my postings including pictures of me. Nevertheless, after reading vero's post I perceived it as an attempt to undermine whatever anonimity we have here and I felt that was not to our advantage. I'm much calmer now   and perhaps vero did not consider this aspect as he is not the least bit shy about his identity.
First, I of course respect anyone's preference to remain anonymous, but personally, I find it to be a weak position. If you post anonymously, you have no "real life" accountability for what you say here. Actions have consequences in "real life", but on anonymous bulletin boards, less so. I prefer to be as true to myself as I can at all times -- including when I am publishing my thoughts, views, and insights into a worldwide bulletin board. If I know that you guys know who I am, I will choose my thoughts more carefully and avoid the easy way out -- which is all too easy to do when you post anonymously. We see it here all the time. Besides, I am proud of who I am and what I have accomplished in life thus far. I've no need to be shy. Second, don't think for a minute that I or someone else on here won't be able to figure out who you are, what you do for a living, or even where you live. There are ways to do this simply by using basic investigative tools and services widely available on the Internet or via a few phone calls. But, doing such work takes time and money. Ultimately, you may not really be worth all the effort. So, just don't be very interesting and you'll be safe. (Obviously, with my lack of anonymity, I'm assuming that I bore many of you here to tears...)
post #38 of 52
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Let's play a little game. What do the institutions listed below have in common? ***New Names Added on October 4, 2004*** U.S. Department of Justice
how about a somewhat more interesting game, who works at the DOJ? I would guess it's Ashcroft himself keeping a track of all the Bush bashing that goes on, that would explain why those mofos at the U.S. customs always give me a hard time...
post #39 of 52
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I cannot remember his handle, but the DOJ guy's picture is in the "show us your face" thread. It's not Ashcroft.
post #40 of 52
I figure my Anti-Bush rants have the Forum on the "Patriot" (So aptly named ) Act "Watch List", and Vero's post on libertarianism got him on it, too. And with Joe G., we're probably all on it...
post #41 of 52
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Who cares?  I've been looking at porn and clothing sites.  There.  Now everyone knows.  The government is too busy browsing the internet to be out to get you.
Hilarious post.  
post #42 of 52
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I figure my Anti-Bush rants have the Forum on the "Patriot" (So aptly named ) Act "Watch List", and Vero's post on libertarianism got him on it, too.   And with Joe G., we're probably all on it...
Well, with Joe G. in the diplomatic elite over there in Europe, I'm sure ECHELON and Carnivore are already tracking his every word and deed.
post #43 of 52
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oh. your server logs all requests to view your avatar. duh. good one.
Well, that explains why my employer is not listed -- I have had avatar display turned off for months.  It adds little to the experience, anyway. dan
post #44 of 52
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I cannot remember his handle, but the DOJ guy's picture is in the "show us your face" thread. It's not Ashcroft.
Wait, you can actually track every individual user name's IPs? Not that I'm concerned about identity leak here, just curious.
post #45 of 52
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I cannot remember his handle, but the DOJ guy's picture is in the "show us your face" thread. It's not Ashcroft.
Is it Looking to Improve, who has already told us he works for the Dutch equivalent of DOJ, or someone else? Inquiring (and somewhat fearful) minds want to know. BTW like your new sig...
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