Random fashion thoughts - Part II (A New Hope)

Bam!ChairDance · Sep 16, 2015

@Noob Gotcha. IIRC the scientific consensus is sexuality is involuntary, but honestly, sooo much of our sexuality is filtered through arbitrary cultural codes that to look at it as purely biological and immutable also rings false. The idea, for example, that sexuality must constitute our identity is purely cultural (I'm sure you've read Foucault)

edit: lol just saw fok's post

VitaTimH · Sep 16, 2015

planetarium said:
I have never heard anybody correlate the fluidity of sexuality with the idea that orientation is a straight up choice. My proclivities shift along with my moods and influences as do those of the sexually healthy individuals I know.

It's a "logical" extension of the original idea (which breaks down under more careful examination, but who has time for that?). I heard a lot of this back in Houston which as far as Texas goes is straight up blue.

nicelynice · Sep 16, 2015

Email me back when I can wear my Rick skirts to the office

RegisDB9 · Sep 16, 2015

LA Guy · Sep 16, 2015

nicelynice said:
Email me back when I can wear my Rick skirts to the office

If you work for us, apparently you can wear them also when traveling on assignment, in "client facing" positions, or at least that's what @Synthese has told me he does.

LA Guy · Sep 16, 2015

LA Guy said:
If you work for us, apparently you can wear them also when traveling on assignment, in "client facing" positions, or at least that's what @Synthese has told me he does.

I may actually do that same, for travel to Paris fashion week. We scored business class for the same price as economy from our travel sponsor (www.mytravalet.com - shoutout), and it's always fun to **** around when you are around a bunch of bougie people.

cyc wid it · Sep 16, 2015

My fishtail magically showed up at my doorstep today. Now if only my AC was fixed...

ManofKent · Sep 16, 2015

planetarium said:
it takes a lot of complaints for a buyer to get banned on eBay

It's pretty much an automated process (at least in the UK - site rules vary a bit). It relies on sellers following ebay's procedures properly, using their unpaid item reminders etc. which results in a flag being put on the buyer's account. Too many flags results in a ban. The main problem is a lot of sellers ignore the procedures meaning no flags get set.

Parker · Sep 16, 2015

I'm still planning on checking out the SFxSF meet-up tomorrow. I forgot I have a late meeting tomorrow, so won't be there until about 8. Anyone still game? It's not quite leather weather. Maybe ratty tee and gym shorts! hah. Or if it's (pray) raining, a rain coat.

@13k
@nineohtoo
@cyc wid it

any other SFers?

13k · Sep 16, 2015

Parker said:
any other SFers?

I forgot I have a conference to attend (Not Dreamforce) till around 9. I'll try to swing by on my way home. Unfortunately I have to present so I'll be in mostly bus casual and will leave the 5 zip at home.

Alternatively we should gather the SF sw&d crew for a local meetup soon!

Bam!ChairDance · Sep 17, 2015

Rag & Bone has some cool slouchy blazers this season in flannel and moleskin fabrics. I don't really follow the brand anymore, but I was pleasantly surprised.

notwithit · Sep 17, 2015

tjonesd2 said:
Yeah I misinterpreted. Also spoke too soon, apparently agender is trans. IDK that, I've never me an agender person before. That said, the extra section on Corner is ******* stupid, but whatever.

The lead singer of Lower Dens considers herself "gender fluid", which isn't really the same thing but gets at a similar idea of an identity that doesn't line up with traditional cis- or transgender norms. Please note that I use the feminine pronoun "herself" only as a reflection of genetic / biological status and because I can't remember what the gender-neutral pronouns are all of a sudden.

Also, the most recent Lower Dens album is really great.

Bam!ChairDance · Sep 17, 2015

gender fluid is what oozes out when we stab gender norms right in the heart

Benesyed · Sep 17, 2015

Bam!ChairDance said:
@Noob Gotcha. IIRC the scientific consensus is sexuality is involuntary, but honestly, sooo much of our sexuality is filtered through arbitrary cultural codes that to look at it as purely biological and immutable also rings false. The idea, for example, that sexuality must constitute our identity is purely cultural (I'm sure you've read Foucault)

edit: lol just saw fok's post

I think that sexuality can be fluid is a better statement than it is fluid. I think a lot of more liberal individuals have that experience of their sexuality and try to then assume that that is also the case or could be the case for every individual "if they would loosen up" so to speak.

I think that is a myth and looking at the margins of sexuality at things like the paraphilias and the attempts to cure them shows that.

Also I love Foucault as a devils advocate for thought and investigating ideas but the dudes structuralism is to strong

ManofKent · Sep 17, 2015

notwithit said:
The lead singer of Lower Dens considers herself "gender fluid", which isn't really the same thing but gets at a similar idea of an identity that doesn't line up with traditional cis- or transgender norms. Please note that I use the feminine pronoun "herself" only as a reflection of genetic / biological status and because I can't remember what the gender-neutral pronouns are all of a sudden.

Also, the most recent Lower Dens album is really great.

I don't think there are any universally accepted gender-neutral pronouns which is a real pain. I tried to get away with a singular 'they' in a report once and had to go back and do the awkward his/her instead. The few transgender young people I've worked with didn't have a problem with an initial wrongly used he or she and only had a problem where people who had been corrected continued to use the wrong pronoun.

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