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^ sipang and i are same age (64, and we grew up playing bball in sint agatha)
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Yeah, I know.  I think that is super dumb.  My working hypothesis is that this is a vestigial artifact of America's puritanical past, which demands a justification/rationalization of what is a fundamentally frivolous purchase.

i'm glad you sensibly acknowledging that. no matter how many semantic hoops people want to jump through , it's really just rationalizing an emotional response.
post #4172 of 13790
styleforum years are weird, 2009 is so long ago
post #4173 of 13790
Man, real years are weird.
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Regarding the durability, some of these watches were literally built for war, or diving to the bottom of the ocean, or doing some crazy activity that most of us will never do.
made me think of
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it's really just rationalizing an emotional response.

This is 99% of human reasoning anyway; we are not immune here alien.gif
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Riding the train right now across town to the fabric market, gonna pick up something to line my guidi bag. I want a natural-dyed fabric (kind of expensive at $50/meter), deciding between persimmon (burnt orange/brown), sumi ink (grey-ish), and indigo for a black bag. Leaning towards persimmon just for the contrast

Indigo would be the most immediately striking.  Sumi is nice, but safe.  Persimmon - that contrast could look amazing or terrible, depending on execution, and it will be nearly impossible to tell beforehand - it's like that for shoe linings.  It really requires that you make the sample before you go "Oh, wow, awesome!" or "Oh boy - kill it with fire. (or object dye it.)"
 

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Man, real years are weird.


But forums are weird, I wonder if they'll still be around and up and running in 10, 20 years and then you'd have entire generational shifts documented in minute details/interactions and maybe posters who would be active members for most of their life and then later new members would dig up contributions and heated discussions between ppl who've since passed on. I was watching Twin Peaks last year and had a look at old usenet discussions from 1990 and it's weeeird reading that stuff 25 years later, just people talking about the last episode of a tv show, fucking around

I'm guessing in most cases communities die down or the membership turnover is too high to allow and kind of extended continuity or maybe the posting format will be radically different by then...but still... I wonder what's the longest a posting member on a messageboard has been active.


thoughts
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Indigo would be the most immediately striking.  Sumi is nice, but safe.  Persimmon - that contrast could look amazing or terrible, depending on execution, and it will be nearly impossible to tell beforehand - it's like that for shoe linings.  It really requires that you make the sample before you go "Oh, wow, awesome!" or "Oh boy - kill it with fire. (or object dye it.)"

 
Got this - kaki with hand painted sumi brushstrokes
Not sure if cool or obnoxious haha



Lining the bad is gonna run me close to $200 and the fabric was $50, so not cheap, hope it doesn't look terrible
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But forums are weird, I wonder if they'll still be around and up and running in 10, 20 years and then you'd have entire generational shifts documented in minute details/interactions and maybe posters who would be active members for most of their life and then later new members would dig up contributions and heated discussions between ppl who've since passed on. I was watching Twin Peaks last year and had a look at old usenet discussions from 1990 and it's weeeird reading that stuff 25 years later, just people talking about the last episode of a tv show, fucking around

I'm guessing in most cases communities die down or the membership turnover is too high to allow and kind of extended continuity or maybe the posting format will be radically different by then...but still... I wonder what's the longest a posting member on a messageboard has been active.


thoughts

I was on usenet - mostly talking about Martial arts stuff.  That was immediate post UFC 1, (so, 1993), and years before I started my MMA career, and the evolution of both the internet and the sport has been incredible to see.

 

I think that one of the main differences between usenet and the forums of 2015 is that usenet groups had no revenue, and therefore, were replaced by, rather than were adapted to, new technologies, and really, resulted in the loss of entire communities.  A place like Styleforum, and many of the other large communities, have changed as technology and user expectations and honestly, the sophistication of the owners and administrators have changed.  Things like gallleries, image hosting, CMS systems, mobile adapted sites, and soon, native apps - could not have happened for usenet because... who was going to pay for that.  I don't think that there is any technology that is that static anymore.  Facebook looks and feels nearly nothing like Facebook in 2004. for example.  Certainly. no one thought that mobile would be such a big deal.  I remember a friend, a real tech geek, with a gen 1 iPhone, trying to show me and my then girlfriend a website, not particularly successfully.  And now... has anyone been truly successful in getting Facebook notifications off their phone completely?

 

Oh man, I feel old.

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Riding the train right now across town to the fabric market, gonna pick up something to line my guidi bag. I want a natural-dyed fabric (kind of expensive at $50/meter), deciding between persimmon (burnt orange/brown), sumi ink (grey-ish), and indigo for a black bag. Leaning towards persimmon just for the contrast

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Indigo would be the most immediately striking.  Sumi is nice, but safe.  Persimmon - that contrast could look amazing or terrible, depending on execution, and it will be nearly impossible to tell beforehand

You guys realize that the dye, especially indigo, is going to get all over everything, right? I lined a backpack in denim, and wind up with blue corners on books and business cards. I mean, it's cool, but you have to expect that.
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Originally Posted by nicelynice View Post

Got this - kaki with hand painted sumi brushstrokes
Not sure if cool or obnoxious haha



Lining the bad is gonna run me close to $200 and the fabric was $50, so not cheap, hope it doesn't look terrible

I dig that.
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Me, @sipang

@Parker
, amoung others.  There are a lot of fogeys around here.

I'm pretty sure I'm older than Manton and Heismatt. But not as old as Vox. I'm not that old.
post #4183 of 13790
Thanks, wasn't sure if it was a bit too "try hard" or something
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You guys realize that the dye, especially indigo, is going to get all over everything, right? I lined a backpack in denim, and wind up with blue corners on books and business cards. I mean, it's cool, but you have to expect that.

The bag, as it, leaks dye like crazy. I don't use it for business or with any light colored clothes. Anything at this point is an improvement.
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I think that one of the main differences between usenet and the forums of 2015 is that usenet groups had no revenue, and therefore, were replaced by, rather than were adapted to, new technologies, and really, resulted in the loss of entire communities.

That's what mildly fascinating to me, the conditions are all there for long lasting communities to develop but is it just a structure where successive waves of new users incrementally but completely replace the old member base or can it retain enough long timers to achieve some sense of continuity (ppl posting for decades) ? Feels like everything points to the former and I can't really see myself posting here in 10 years but who knows...

But yeah maybe this kind of stuff is becoming irrelevant in today's more dynamic environment and increased fragmentation, idk.

I need to sleep
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The bag, as it, leaks dye like crazy. I don't use it for business or with any light colored clothes. Anything at this point is an improvement.
Ah that's a shame. One thing that will help at least with the outside is to wax the leather. A couple light coats of Obenauf's LP or something similar should help keep dye from rubbing off on your clothes.
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