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Originally Posted by Krish the Fish View Post

That's a fair question. There is validity to that claim: I was interested in purchasing a new leather jacket, and I saw Crompton's post about the RLPL. It fit what I wanted to get, so I tracked one down and got it. I just say "confidently" because (a) I hadn't seen that jacket before, and (b) objectively it fit what I wanted and subjectively I thought I hadn't seen a suede bomber as attractive as that one, so I purchased one after his post. So I guess I can't say that his post was 100% of the reason why I bought a jacket, but it had a major contribution toward my purchasing that specific jacket (and the time frame from when I saw it to when I purchased it).

Can Crompton's (store?) rely on that or is that just one image among the many you're seeing or one commenter in a large group? I mean if you're gonna be an influence you've gotta correlated with sales, as far as paying you for pr is concerned. Otherwise, nice, you predicted the comeback of Breton sweaters or whatever.
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Originally Posted by oulipien View Post
 

Moncler apparently had a run on the specific jacket Drake was wearing in the Hotline Bling video (and James Turrell even got a boost!). Seems silly to argue that these things don't have an effect, even if your own acquaintances are all above it all or too cool for school.

 

Did Turrell get to buy another crater?

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Originally Posted by Parker View Post

Did Turrell get to buy another crater?

Ok google tells me the video in question looks like Turrell's work, did he art direct or something?

Ok, no:
http://pitchfork.com/news/61734-james-turrell-denies-involvement-in-drakes-hotline-bling-video/

I bet Kanye West did something/will do something with Abramovic for max whoring.

Ok, another rapper did. I once say an Abramovic conference where she told us she'd finance her institute by selling branded pencils and everyone kinda eeewed. She's out of it and manipulative at the same time and I don't think it is a front.
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Crompton = Simon Crompton of the blog Permanent Style (a menswear blog)

In the end I think that you're right; at this point with so much information it's hard to pinpoint any one source as the sole influence for why you do something/buy something/go somewhere, etc. But I'm sure there are plenty anecdotal (so not testable information, but still present) accounts of specific influences shaping decision making. However I think what you're saying (and what I'm agreeing with) is that even in those anecdotal accounts it would be difficult or impossible to pinpoint a single voice as the unequivocal reason why something happened, when some confounding factors could be present.
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I have no idea if the Drake vid was just "inspired by" Turrell or if he had anything to do with the art direction. But I've only seen the SNL spoof, so I'm not the best judge. I do love LA conceptual art from the 70s -- and maybe like Raf, I liked it better when it wasn't so popular.

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I have no idea if the Drake vid was just "inspired by" Turrell or if he had anything to do with the art direction. But I've only seen the SNL spoof, so I'm not the best judge. I do love LA conceptual art from the 70s -- and maybe like Raf, I liked it better when it wasn't so popular.

Has the moment passed though, I do know LA is cooler than NYC and its art scene is at the forefront of this but things are calming down, especially with the #artcrash, no?
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 I might be an exception, but I am rarely to never influenced by modeled photos.  I buy things online based purely on product shots.  The rare exception are some footwear, though in all cases, they are footwear shown worn, but below the knee shots, so that the shoes or boots are seen more as an object being worn, rather than as a part of a bigger ensemble.  

 

I suppose that I have a pretty specific idea of how I'd like to look, and so pick items that would fit that look, rather than buying into any specific, contemporary, look.  

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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

 I might be an exception, but I am rarely to never influenced by modeled photos.  I buy things online based purely on product shots.  The rare exception are some footwear, though in all cases, they are footwear shown worn, but below the knee shots, so that the shoes or boots are seen more as an object being worn, rather than as a part of a bigger ensemble.  

I suppose that I have a pretty specific idea of how I'd like to look, and so pick items that would fit that look, rather than buying into any specific, contemporary, look.  

You're a product obsessive and keep your narrative/overall ideas centered on yourself, that is obvious (they're also hilariously american, you're a chinese cowboy). TBH I'm totally different and am influenced by overall looks I just tend to get my obsession from non-targeted "media" (i.e. I'll read a book about a detective and want a perfect fucking trench or a hand made pipe or whatever). I also buy in store without much instructions and according to whims. I'm sure I'm influenced but I'm also certain you can't trace it to an influencer (I don't follow any and get my pop culture from facebook posts). I also fail to make any links (I knwo Drake exists and might have danced to his songs in a club but I didn't care to ask what the stupid song I was dancing to was so I dunno his music).
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You know for all you cool cats here there are tonnes of people out there who blindly follow trends (be it fashion, food or travel). Social media's influence on that is undeniable and it is only going to get stronger and make traditional media or marketing less relevant imo..
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post


You're a product obsessive and keep your narrative/overall ideas to yourself, that is obvious. TBH I'm totally different and am influenced by overall looks I just tend to get my obsession from non-targeted "media" (i.e. I'll read a book about a detective and want a perfect fucking trench or a hand made pipe or whatever). I also buy in store without much instructions and according to whims. I'm sure I'm influenced but I'm also certain you can't trace it to an influencer (I don't follow any and get my pop culture from facebook posts). I also fail to make any links (I knwo Drake exists and might have danced to his songs in a club but I didn't care to ask what the stupid song I was dancing to was so I dunno his music).

I suppose that my question here then would be whether influencers influence you in the same way that more conventional advertising affected previous generations of consumers.  i.e. while you may not be consciously influenced by specific individuals to buy specific products, your ideas of what might be cool or interesting at any specific moment are affected by the innumerable images you pass every day, so to speak.

 

Someone who lives in say, Moscow, ID, and is a farmer is probably more immune to these influences, but you live in Paris, a world center of fashion, and you hang out with and are surrounded by fashion people.  If they influence you, then you are probably at least indirectly influenced by whatever images are served up to them.

 

Sorry this sounds incoherent.  Have been on the phone and talking contracts or similar for much of the day.

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Originally Posted by penanceroyaltea View Post

You know for all you cool cats here there are tonnes of people out there who blindly follow trends (be it fashion, food or travel). Social media's influence on that is undeniable and it is only going to get stronger and make traditional media or marketing less relevant imo..

Once again it is cultural inheritance, not really cooler. There's nothing particularly awful with liking some moron popstar's slacks, I mean what are they good for aside slacks ideas? I'm just saying I'm not sure there is such a proven correlation. I might not know specific pop culture at large but I understand the idea and diffusion and this might just be a failure of modeling trend-diffusion more than anything else. Things also take mysterious turns, I know there is an old YSL electric blue bomber jacket I bought that Kanye also got afterwards, maybe his stylist saw it on sufu but even if that was the case I'm not sure I'd be an influencer, more like a random event in an avalanche of a myriad of sources. If that was the case I couldn't make him buy whatever even if I wanted to so would Ibe marketable, not really.
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Originally Posted by penanceroyaltea View Post

You know for all you cool cats here there are tonnes of people out there who blindly follow trends (be it fashion, food or travel). Social media's influence on that is undeniable and it is only going to get stronger and make traditional media or marketing less relevant imo..

I love, and will always, love, traditional food, and gastro pubs.  If gastropubs go away. I will go back to loving regular old pubs, like I did before gastropubs were a thing.  I also love trattoria and bistros and bar food.  Yes, I'm a peasant.

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I think that I once #influencer'ed @dieworkwear - for real.  

post #11819 of 13969
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

I suppose that my question here then would be whether influencers influence you in the same way that more conventional advertising affected previous generations of consumers.  i.e. while you may not be consciously influenced by specific individuals to buy specific products, your ideas of what might be cool or interesting at any specific moment are affected by the innumerable images you pass every day, so to speak.

Someone who lives in say, Moscow, ID, and is a farmer is probably more immune to these influences, but you live in Paris, a world center of fashion, and you hang out with and are surrounded by fashion people.  If they influence you, then you are probably at least indirectly influenced by whatever images are served up to them.

Sorry this sounds incoherent.  Have been on the phone and talking contracts or similar for much of the day.

I'm in Bahston right now, well rented a victorian house in Newton. Very fashunz! (nope) Honestly not influenced that much I think, not because I'm immune to marketing or something, it is just that I move around too much and my references often come from dead non-marketers so it is hard to go at it. There's also a repellent effect in fashion + so many things going on that it is almost unreadable a sea of signs.

Nope: our very own Jeffrey Y. just told me to buy Champagne Kirkland brand at Costco (by french producer maison Janisson), haha.

I like this place in Bahston, any other recs:
http://bin26.com/
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I am just going to put it out there now that I am completely, unabashedly and shamelessly influenced by @conceptual 4est and @Parker lol.

And this place.. this forum made me buy a rick Owens bomber back in the day.. like what?!
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