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Random fashion thoughts - Part II (A New Hope) - Page 779post #11671 of 171209/13/16 at 3:03ampost #11672 of 171209/13/16 at 12:02pmIt should be super easy to replace the lining of your jacket, and honestly if you went to the right tailor for it you could probably get a better/more breathable lining put in.
I say if the store has a return policy, you have nothing to lose trying the jacket. Might be exactly the right weight and be significantly lighter than the suede 5 zip. The suede RLPL bomber that I posted about a week or so ago was what I got to wear for midwest spring and fall, and it's the perfect weight to wear between mid to low 70s and the low 50s, even unlined and in a thin skin. It would be perfect for a Caribbean winter:
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If only it wasn't 88 degrees in a balmy sun right nowpost #11673 of 171209/13/16 at 12:31pmpost #11674 of 171209/13/16 at 12:32pmpost #11675 of 171209/13/16 at 12:38pmpost #11676 of 171209/13/16 at 12:54pm
It wouldn't be the first time J Crew has been accused of ripping off ideas.
Although it would be hard to prove that here (especially since J Crew has done paint-splattered/ patchwork stuff before RW was even around), the fact that they recently collaborated with RW makes this super sketchy. Hartley is right to be pissed.post #11677 of 171209/13/16 at 12:56pmpost #11678 of 171209/13/16 at 1:05pmQuote:Originally Posted by Synthese
Damn, am I following this right?
Jcrew menswear lead Frank Muytjens uses RW pants in a styling shoot (with RW blessing), then goes on to release a series of patchwork garments eerily similar to RW? Single pair of patched jeans is one thing, a whole collection is another.
The other way to look at this is: Frank plucked an idea that has been hot for the last couple of years, didn't have something readily available from J. Crew for a shoot yet, and contacted someone who does (so he could do the shoot). Rare Weaves does some of the best ones, so they seem like they'd be a natural choice. Whether he was going to get something for that shoot, or choose RW or not, was independent from whether he would come out with patchwork jeans.
Boro, and shabby chic as a broader concept, seems like a really old theme in fashion. RRL did patchwork clothes back in the 90s. I assume other people before that. The idea of upcycling has become popular again, so it just seems natural that it would eventually trickle into a high street store. J Crew is often one of the first adopters in that sort of tier.
I don't know, claiming that J. Crew stole this idea that's been around forever -- and is itself stolen from hippies and farmers -- seems like a stretch. But I also don't know the whole story.post #11679 of 171209/13/16 at 1:17pmpost #11680 of 171209/13/16 at 1:17pmpost #11681 of 171209/13/16 at 1:21pmpost #11682 of 171209/13/16 at 1:28pm
Right, of course it is. And indigo + patchwork is very "in" right now, and as you say, has been around for....hundreds of years? Anyway, I'm just following what he's putting on insta, which includes plenty of stuff about how no, he's not the first, just that in this case he was tapped for "styling" which resulted in a collection that is a piece-by-piece (apparently) remake of his work. That last part is the only bit that sounds kinda scummy, but who knows?post #11683 of 171209/13/16 at 1:28pmYeah, it's how fashion works anyway. Not sure if the RW/JC example is even all that egregious, as these things go. Proenza Schouler's runway show at NYFW used earrings that totally rip off a friend of mine's designs, I've seen other friends calling that out on Instagram too and I think that example is way worse.post #11684 of 171209/13/16 at 1:32pm
I dunno, the prevalence of plagiarized design doesn't seem like a reason to just roll with it. I don't think that's what you're saying, though. But no, if anything Rareweaves is pretty late to teh whole boro thing, no? Sounds like his personal involvement + no compensation or acknowledgement is the issue here.post #11685 of 171209/13/16 at 1:33pm
It seems only that the recency of their interaction has got RW feeling burned. Also, its not like this is going to hurt his (RW) business anyways. People who love RW likely loathe J. Crew for the same reasons. People who love J. Crew likely have never heard of RW anyways.
Someone who's prepared to spend north of $1K for a RW piece isn't going to be swayed last minute by J. Crews' accessible price point.
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