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NYT on Opening Ceremony's new line of Calvin Klein/ Kate Moss ad t-shirts.
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The Opening Ceremony founders Humberto Leon and Carol Lim agree that 1993 was a formative year. For one, they both graduated from suburban Los Angeles high schools. “That summer was pivotal,” Lim says. “I could really enjoy myself because I’d gotten into college, so I backpacked through Europe for four months.” And that fall, they enrolled at University of California, Berkeley, where they met and, Leon recalls, quickly bonded over their shared affinity for polyester outfits. “At the time, we looked to magazines and what our favorite actors and musicians were wearing,” he remembers. “As an 18-year-old kid, you’re trying to emulate the people you admire.” In the pre-internet era, the pair had to conduct nondigital “research,” as Lim calls it — queuing for the latest issue of Interview or the Face, or scrutinizing 10,000 Maniacs music videos.

“Brands, too, were different back then; every brand stood for its aesthetic,” Leon says. (In high school, he had worked at the Gap and Lim at the Body Shop in their respective local malls.) “There was a purpose to every store: You’d go to Miller’s Outpost for your jeans, you’d go to Esprit for the colorful striped tops.” And underwear, carefully positioned so the waistband was in plain sight, had to be Calvin Klein. “From our very ‘mall’ perspective, that’s what we knew and what we could buy,” Leon says, “and in a sense, that and Calvin Klein perfume was our first step into luxury.”

In their roles at the now-teenage Opening Ceremony, Leon and Lim have partnered with Calvin Klein on several clothing collections, including a line of underwear. But their newest collaboration, which goes on sale today with all of the proceeds going to amfAR, centers on ’90s artifacts: David Sims’s photographs of Kate Moss, from a 1993 Calvin Klein Underwear campaign, which they decided to reprint on a set of T-shirts. “These images might as well have been shot today, they’re so fresh,” Leon says, referring to the resurgence of all things ’90s. Lim adds: “Calvin Klein had a specific point of view that was innovative. I don’t think that we like being nostalgic or bringing things back for the sake of trends. It’s about moments that have been ingrained in us.”

Feel like CK nostalgia is about to come back, but does anyone remember Calvin Klein being distinctly not cool in the '90s?
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meh

post #11238 of 13979
I wore Jive, Fuct, thrift store leather jackets, and suede Pumas in the 90s, so I'd be a terrible gauge for how cool Calvin Klein was at that time. Then again, Kate Moss is pretty unassailable.
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Originally Posted by UrbanComposition View Post

I wore Jive, Fuct, thrift store leather jackets, and suede Pumas in the 90s

Those were cool!
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I certainly thought so, but those pictures will never again see the light of day.
Didn't CK go somewhat minimalist in the 90s? I remember their ads being mostly black and white.
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I mean, yea, but I think that got washed out by mall ubiquity, overextension, and the Marky Mark ad campaign.

I feel like by the mid-90s, Calvin Klein as a fashion label was associated with somewhat corny people (sort of like LV-logo'd handbags or whatever, but much more accessible). People who were sensitive to fashion, I think, were aware of those connotations. The 99% of other CK customers were probably just buying what they thought was good underwear, not necessarily purchasing stuff to signal their fashion and/ or social identities.

Helmut Lang was equally minimalist in spirit, but the price point was a lot higher, and for better or worse, exclusivity allowed it to be considered more "high concept" and fashionable.

At least that's how I remembered it.
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Raf to CK will bring it back.
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Originally Posted by cyc wid it View Post

Raf to CK will bring it back.

Get ready for oversized underwear.
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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post

I mean, yea, but I think that got washed out by mall ubiquity, overextension, and the Marky Mark ad campaign.

I feel like by the mid-90s, Calvin Klein as a fashion label was associated with somewhat corny people (sort of like LV-logo'd handbags or whatever, but much more accessible). People who were sensitive to fashion, I think, were aware of those connotations. The 99% of other CK customers were probably just buying what they thought was good underwear, not necessarily purchasing stuff to signal their fashion and/ or social identities.

Helmut Lang was equally minimalist in spirit, but the price point was a lot higher, and for better or worse, exclusivity allowed it to be considered more "high concept" and fashionable.

At least that's how I remembered it.

The Calvin Klein brand was greatly diminished by their lack of control over some key licenses.  Specifically, this altercation with Warnaco in the late 1990s: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB980174725667355683, which really derailed the underwear and jeanswear parts of the brand.  

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Maybe Alexander McQueen?  A pic of what you are looking for might help.  Do you mean a new balance type of sole?


Isn't McQ the same price range as Jil and Prada?

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Size up on buzz rickson sweatshirts right?
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Isn't McQ the same price range as Jil and Prada?

Yes, maybe a bit less expensive, but I see a lot of it on sale.  Sales might be the best bet right now, tbh.

 

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Size up on buzz rickson sweatshirts right?

An M is a size 38, and is TTS for that.  It's not so much Japanese sizing as it is Italian/Continental sizing.

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Size up on buzz rickson sweatshirts right?

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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

An M is a size 38, and is TTS for that.  It's not so much Japanese sizing as it is Italian/Continental sizing.

Mine says "S (36-38)" on the label. I'm a 37" in the chest and this fits me well. I think it could also accommodate a 38.

Bought it like four years ago though, so maybe they changed things.
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Any recs for thick/boxy type tees similar to C.E? I had a EG pocket shirt that's pretty heavy but wasn't into the cut. 

post #11250 of 13979
Do we general lookbook thread? Meaning, not one connected to a specific brand or even genre. Just awesome lookbooks people come across.
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