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3sixteen has white denim
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I had no idea the cardigan is derived from military wear.

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/06/the-military-origins-of-the-cardigan/488252/

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Not sure where to put this since I don't see a quick question thread running lately. Is there a place that I can search Japanese/Euro retailers that don't appear in a standard Google search for a certain item? 

 

I'm desperately trying to find these: http://www.haiderackermann.be/content/decorated-boots-camel-and-woven-black-white-leather in a 42/43

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I had no idea the cardigan is derived from military wear.

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/06/the-military-origins-of-the-cardigan/488252/

 

Was it, though? I wanted to think that article was interesting but I didn't learn a lot about the actual origin of the cardigan in there.

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Not sure where to put this since I don't see a quick question thread running lately. Is there a place that I can search Japanese/Euro retailers that don't appear in a standard Google search for a certain item? 

 

I'm desperately trying to find these: http://www.haiderackermann.be/content/decorated-boots-camel-and-woven-black-white-leather in a 42/43

You can search site:*.jp or whatever country the retailers might be in if they have a country-specific URL

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Was it, though? I wanted to think that article was interesting but I didn't learn a lot about the actual origin of the cardigan in there.

 

 

I'd argue only tangentially related to the military, based on the article.  Cardigans created by Brudenell, Earl of Cardigan (haha) in the 19th century.  Fun facts about how he was rich, led survived, and fled the Charge of the Light Brigade, then got busted out as a coward for said flight.

 

Then the article takes an abrupt turn into Coco Chanel, who in actuality popularized the cardigan for the masses via women's wear.  Fun facts about how Coco was a fascist and Nazi sympathizer.

 

No real info on how or why Brudenell developed the cardigan other than reference to the popularity of the "knitted waistcoat."

 

Yeah, you're right, in retrospect the article was weak.

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Was it, though? I wanted to think that article was interesting but I didn't learn a lot about the actual origin of the cardigan in there.
You can search site:*.jp or whatever country the retailers might be in if they have a country-specific URL

I've read that the cardigan was originally made for Lieutenant General James Brudenell, the Seventh Earl of Cardigan. He wanted a sweater that he could put on without messing up his coiffed hair, so they cut an opening down the front and put in buttons. Who knows if that story is true. If you care about your hair, you'd probably also care about an unusual opening (at the time) on your sweater.
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I've read that the cardigan was originally made for Lieutenant General James Brudenell, the Seventh Earl of Cardigan. He wanted a sweater that he could put on without messing up his coiffed hair, so they cut an opening down the front and put in buttons. Who knows if that story is true. If you care about your hair, you'd probably also care about an unusual opening (at the time) on your sweater.

 

Wait, what?  That article said Coco Chanel developed the cardigan so it wouldn't mess up her perfectly coiffed hair!  

 

Maybe Chanel was the reincarnation of Brudenell?  Or that article's just bullshit.

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Wait, what?  That article said Coco Chanel developed the cardigan so it wouldn't mess up her perfectly coiffed hair!  

Maybe Chanel was the reincarnation of Brudenell?  Or that article's just bullshit.

I haven't read the Atlantic article yet, but cardigans were obviously a central piece to Coco Chanel's looks. Although I think hers was more like a jacket, rather than the knitted sweater we think of.

Anyway, if it was invented by the Earl of Cardigan, I don't see how Chanel could have reinvented it.

This is the problem with fashion writing, tbh. A lot of it draws from dubious historical sources, myths and tales, and marketing materials. I've read the story I cited in menswear history books, but a lot of those books have questionable sources. Good fashion research is more academic, and those kind of books don't really go into the "the history of the cardigan." They're more about changing identities of masculinity in fashion or whatever.
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I wish I was the Earl of Cardigan instead of the Earl of the lowly Mock Turtleneck...

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My takeaway is: much like you should only wear boat shoes if you're on a boat (and even then...), you should only wear a cardigan if pullover sweaters will mess up your coiffed hair.

 

A cardigan also solves the problem of stretching out the neckhole of your finely knit sweater

 

 

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I found this interesting, even though I care very little about the magazine, magazines in general or the people involved.

http://jezebel.com/what-happened-to-kate-lanphears-maxim-1782348606
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Apparently Ssense is pronounced "essence"

Never would've guessed that

I always think of it as including a glottal stop, but that's probably wrong.

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Bros, recs?

Off white ivory/cream colored linen pants

White jeans

I'm partial to Big John's slim tapered, which are kind of roomy up top and have a somewhat higher rise but still have a decent taper below the knee. Their white denim has more of a khaki weft that gives it a slightly dirty appearance, which I prefer to optic white.
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I can't find any previous discussions on it but i need a mattress, anybody got good recs
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I can't find any previous discussions on it but i need a mattress, anybody got good recs

I actually just assumed we all live like this.


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