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Originally Posted by nicelynice View Post

really, really random question, but is there any demand for Italian / English / Japanese trilingual person with marketing experience in fashion industry? Or does everyone speak English so the language thing isn't really a help? coworker is having a career crisis and I told her I know some fashion bros.

That particular tri-lingual combination is actually extremely useful.

English is certainly the most important since almost everyone speaks it, but depending on the customers Japanese is also very useful. And all the best stuff is still sourced and made in Italy, so of course Italian is important.

I am an american working at a company based in italy. In addition to my english, which is most useful in the showroom when dealing with clients from all over the world, i speak some italian, quite terribly, but I am still able to communicate with the women who work in the studio to tell them what we want to do and how to do it. Our commercial director is based in tokyo and is japanese. He is more or less fluent in english, but has no italian so when he comes to work in the studio I need to translate for him. In the showroom he works with our japanese clients and reluctantly works with other global customers in english but if I am free I help him because he is still unsure and doesn't want to risk mistakes. Our boss is fluent in English, Italian, French and is able to greet and exchange basic pleasantries in Japanese.

So, someone who can speak all three I think would be in a step ahead of many.

But the fashion industry is shit, so, she should probably use her brain for something more useful if she can foo.gif
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Quick: London recommendations! Been here for a few days so far but finding myself with more time than needed for what I originally planned. Tomorrow is Tate Modern and then nothing for the rest of the day, and nothing planned for Thursday either. Fielding any recommendations for food (yes!) snacks (sure!) museums (hell yeah!) shopping (eh) drinks (why not) and anything else I should see. No tourist spots please - not that I don't like them, I think I've just seen them all already. I'm American and from New York so please don't recommend me a burger or anything like that.
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Small museum that is worth zipping into is the Hunterian Medical museum at the college of surgeons -- free, quick, and really interesting. One floor is specimens from a whacko guerilla doctor from the 1700s who raided graves and collected all sorts of crazy body parts. Second part of the museum is a history of surgical technology. Also cool.

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Thought this was amusing given the sales thread. At around 14:20 they talk about net-a-porter and Julia Louis-Dreyfus complains about stuff selling out. Jerry Seinfield's wife then tells her about the VIP preview:

 

http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com/julia-louis-dreyfus-ill-go-if-i-dont-have-to-talk

post #10355 of 17222
While you are there can't you go to Eagle Place and kick a guy in the nuts for me and tell him to call me back.

Besides that I would go to the area around Redchurch st., Arnold Circus, Brick Lane, Spitalfields. Lots of shops incl. Box park, Present etc. and a bunch of good restaurants.

I usually use this site to see what it going on and you can search streets/areas.

http://londontown.com

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Fully fluent English speakers are needed in all sectors of the Japanese corporate world. Pretty much everyone I know how deals with Japan professionally, has multiple stories about the export / marketing departments not speaking or speaking very little non Japanese.

Whether or not the Japanese are aware of this is the question though.

We both work for a company that is mindful enough of this to fact to employ us. Corporate world in Japan can be a soul-crushing experience for foreigners, though, especially at the management level. Everyone not married to a Japanese person with kids is always secretly plotting an exit strategy smile.gif
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That particular tri-lingual combination is actually extremely useful.

English is certainly the most important since almost everyone speaks it, but depending on the customers Japanese is also very useful. And all the best stuff is still sourced and made in Italy, so of course Italian is important.

I am an american working at a company based in italy. In addition to my english, which is most useful in the showroom when dealing with clients from all over the world, i speak some italian, quite terribly, but I am still able to communicate with the women who work in the studio to tell them what we want to do and how to do it. Our commercial director is based in tokyo and is japanese. He is more or less fluent in english, but has no italian so when he comes to work in the studio I need to translate for him. In the showroom he works with our japanese clients and reluctantly works with other global customers in english but if I am free I help him because he is still unsure and doesn't want to risk mistakes. Our boss is fluent in English, Italian, French and is able to greet and exchange basic pleasantries in Japanese.

So, someone who can speak all three I think would be in a step ahead of many.

But the fashion industry is shit, so, she should probably use her brain for something more useful if she can foo.gif

Thanks for the info, I'll pass it along. I figured the fashion industry was kinda shit unless you're doing it out of love.

What is it like working in the fashion industry? What do people get paid? I imagine retail and production are like any other industry, but how many people does a mid-tier brand like Stephan Schneider or Robert Geller employ and in what capacity? What other roles exist? Just curious now haha.
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Quick: London recommendations! Been here for a few days so far but finding myself with more time than needed for what I originally planned. Tomorrow is Tate Modern and then nothing for the rest of the day, and nothing planned for Thursday either. Fielding any recommendations for food (yes!) snacks (sure!) museums (hell yeah!) shopping (eh) drinks (why not) and anything else I should see. No tourist spots please - not that I don't like them, I think I've just seen them all already. I'm American and from New York so please don't recommend me a burger or anything like that.

Happiness Forgets and The White Lyan are both really great bars, if Shoreditch isn't too far out of your way. S.E.H Kelly's workshop is over in that area too, pretty nice place to drop into even if you're not really looking to shop.

e: I'm told that the bistro that just opened up above Happiness Forgets, Petit Pois, is quite good
post #10358 of 17222
Fashion pays shit and you're surrounded by retards
post #10359 of 17222

^ If you're working mass market you'll be $$...but

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
you'll be making lame product.
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Recs for jacket (bombers, Geller, not bespoke) hangers? Hanger project feels kinda step at $30/per but maybe you're paying for the right thing.
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I use these

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Originally Posted by conceptual 4est View Post

Quick: London recommendations! Been here for a few days so far but finding myself with more time than needed for what I originally planned. Tomorrow is Tate Modern and then nothing for the rest of the day, and nothing planned for Thursday either. Fielding any recommendations for food (yes!) snacks (sure!) museums (hell yeah!) shopping (eh) drinks (why not) and anything else I should see. No tourist spots please - not that I don't like them, I think I've just seen them all already. I'm American and from New York so please don't recommend me a burger or anything like that.

From the Tate Modern you can cross the river and walk to St Pauls, which is worth a visit. That'll leave you in the City, which is a bit shit. If you walk West from there towards Holborn you'll be super close to the British Museum and the Hunterian Museum. You'll also be close to Freuds on Shaftesbury Avenue which is my fav cocktail bar.

Soho and that general area is worth a visit, just avoid Tottenham Court Road as there are loads of works happening there right now. If you're in Soho both Franco Manca and Pizza Pilgrims are great for pizza.
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@conceptual 4est

 

If you play guitar head to Denmark Street. Definitely.

 

Clare de Rouen books (on Tottenham Court Road but not where the works are) is an excellent art/fashion book store and has loads of good stuff. Foyles is also lovely, but I imagine NYC has big fuck off book stores too.

 

V and A is pretty good, and the Barbican has a great exhibition on as well. London also has great parks - Hyde, Richard, Hampsted Heath, worth a visit and a relax.

 

Food wise there's a killer Vietnamese place near King's Cross. Like damn fucking great - Sen Viet. The Ban Cuon (probably spelled that incorrectly) is especially good, as are the egg pancakes (g trans help me out, bro).

 

If you're in town on the weekend I might be around (have to go in to vote), let me know.

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Originally Posted by nicelynice View Post

Thanks for the info, I'll pass it along. I figured the fashion industry was kinda shit unless you're doing it out of love.

What is it like working in the fashion industry? What do people get paid? I imagine retail and production are like any other industry, but how many people does a mid-tier brand like Stephan Schneider or Robert Geller employ and in what capacity? What other roles exist? Just curious now haha.

Yes, we certainly do it for the love. Our lives are similar to those of the stereotypical "starving artist". We work constantly, are stressed about our next body of work being a success every season, and while our customers are millionaires (and billionaires), we "splurge" on a steak dinner with some house wine every once and a while which could cost a grand total of €20.

I worked in corporate fashion (really big mass market shit) in NYC for many years and the pay was better, especially before the 2008 finiancial shitstorm, but the work was soul-sucking. Now that corporate environment is even worse. No risks are taken. Creativity is evil. And pay is worse. And that mentality has worked it's way into even the greatest high end companies as well now. What if Cristobal Balenciaga could see what has happened to his company and name? What about Yves Saint Laurent? Why do you think Dior cannot find a designer for haute couture? DIOR HAUTE COUTURE, one of the most important positions in fashion cannot find someone stupid enough to work for them since they too are run by bottom line.

Lucky for me, my job is one of a kind. My boss wants to be financially successful, but creativity and growth are more important. If anyone in the company has an idea, we are usually making it by the end of the day. And if it doesn't sell, it's not a failure, it's just a new technique or idea to use on something else down the line. It is literally the only company in the world to operate in the way it does. But we're all broke. And we live in a tiny italian village and we work a lot.

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Fashion pays shit and you're surrounded by retards

We're surrounded by retards anywhere we are anyway, so...

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^ If you're working mass market you'll be $$...but Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
you'll be making lame product.

Yeah, but relative to other fashion jobs only. If I hear about one of my peers making over $150k it's a huge number. But my cousin right out of school was working on some hedge fund or some such other fuckery and was making $175k right off the bat. Now she's still under 30 and making over $300k. Her partner is in his 40s and in the same field and makes over $5 million. They pay $13k/month rent for their manhattan apartment. I will never be anywhere near that rich.

There are very few rich people in fashion aside from the customers. Even Yohji, perharps the most important contemporary designer was, what?, $80 million in debt a few years back? That's absurd.
post #10365 of 17222
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Fashion pays shit and you're surrounded by retards

At least you are no surrounded by lawyers and bankers.
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