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@DonRaphael

My pleasure. Keep asking more questions if you have any.

What MTO are you considering?

I think from what I've seen, the following leathers from EB are home runs:

Pewter, like a grey-olive tint to EG Bronze.
Vitello Etrusco, perfect red-brown color.
Aubergine, like GG Vintage Rioja.
Vitello Bolet, perfect burnt caramel brown.
Gold and Brown Museum Calf, great mottling.
Plum Museum Calf, super rich wine color with mottling.
Walnut Suede, looks like GG Fox Suede.
Buffalo (see jiggly.parts IG for his boots), great texture looks pliable like Taransjo calf that Skoak uses for Carmina Jumpers.

And seriously, EB Millerighe soles should just come standard. Perfectly sleek, durable, and grippy. I just wish it came in a brown color as well, maybe @GabrielOB would know.
Basically the SkoAB x Manolo shoe but in dark brown calf. Can't afford it now though, so I need to hold off for now. To my eye, the 804 last looks great with wing tips.
post #1307 of 2840
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I know there have been some discussions on the 2102b last, so hopefully this helps. I am a 11UK in both the 2102b and Carmina Simpson last - to me they fit very similar with a slightly higher instep on the EB's (2102b in burgundy and Simpson in black):






So you'd recommend going with the same as my Simpson size in the 2102b? Do you have any other Carminas for comparison?
post #1308 of 2840
One thing to keep in mind with sizing advice is that—this is my personal observation and opinion—the larger the foot, the less accurate the advice might be for you.

If I wear a size 7 UK and someone with size 12 feet gives me advice, even if his foot is shaped the same as mine, the advice might not work for me.

I feel it's because of a general issue with scaling that makers like G&G have brought up: proportions scale differently as the shoe size goes up. Eg., the heel of a size 7 might not be too far off from a size 12, but the length and width might be vastly different relatively speaking.

So for the most accurate sizing advice possible...try to find someone with similar shape AND similarly sized feet. I know that sounds obvious but I don't think many people consider this.
post #1309 of 2840

Thanks for the comparison, I may have to give the 2102b a try.  It looks great.  Any comparison with the 804 last?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Cityplace View Post

I know there have been some discussions on the 2102b last, so hopefully this helps. I am a 11UK in both the 2102b and Carmina Simpson last - to me they fit very similar with a slightly higher instep on the EB's (2102b in burgundy and Simpson in black):





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Originally Posted by sacafotos View Post

One thing to keep in mind with sizing advice is that—this is my personal observation and opinion—the larger the foot, the less accurate the advice might be for you.

If I wear a size 7 UK and someone with size 12 feet gives me advice, even if his foot is shaped the same as mine, the advice might not work for me.

I feel it's because of a general issue with scaling that makers like G&G have brought up: proportions scale differently as the shoe size goes up. Eg., the heel of a size 7 might not be too far off from a size 12, but the length and width might be vastly different relatively speaking.

So for the most accurate sizing advice possible...try to find someone with similar shape AND similarly sized feet. I know that sounds obvious but I don't think many people consider this.

Actually, never thought of this before - but makes sense. I'm generally a 11UK in almost all dress shoes/lasts I've tried and generally don't have the variations in fitting that I've seen on the boards here:

-Carmina Rain (okay fit, slight heel slip in oxfords, but fine in boots)
- Carmina Inca (slight heel slip)
- Carmina Robert (nice fit, but only boots)
- St Crispin's Classic last (almost perfect)

But definitely the Simpson and 2102b fit me the best, grip the heel and allow for toe wiggle room.

Unfortunately I don't have experience with the 804 last.
post #1311 of 2840
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Originally Posted by sacafotos View Post

One thing to keep in mind with sizing advice is that—this is my personal observation and opinion—the larger the foot, the less accurate the advice might be for you.

If I wear a size 7 UK and someone with size 12 feet gives me advice, even if his foot is shaped the same as mine, the advice might not work for me.

I feel it's because of a general issue with scaling that makers like G&G have brought up: proportions scale differently as the shoe size goes up. Eg., the heel of a size 7 might not be too far off from a size 12, but the length and width might be vastly different relatively speaking.

So for the most accurate sizing advice possible...try to find someone with similar shape AND similarly sized feet. I know that sounds obvious but I don't think many people consider this.


You are completely right that it is tough for advice from larger feet to work for people with smaller feet. We can deal with a larger variation in sizing because of the increased size of our feet. Sizes are based off of a standard increase in length and width per unit size, but as the foot is larger, the proportion of increase in size becomes smaller. A 1/4 inch increase in length for a size 7 is a much larger increase in size compared to the total length of the foot vs that same 1/4 inch increase to a size 13 shoe. 

 

As a guy with very large feet, I can try on a half or sometimes even a whole size different in length and the fit can feel the same as long as the width size is adjusted to make the measured width the same in actual inches/cm/etc. i.e.: a size 10E vs a 10.5D vs an 11C are all the same in measured width even though the overall length of the shoe is different as well as the heel to ball measurement. For someone of average size they may be able to go from the 10E to the 10.5D and feel that they are fine with either, but slightly prefer one over the other.

 

In an extreme example of this, like myself, here is how it can work differently and actually make it more forgiving for large sizes to be slightly off in sizing.  In Allen Edmonds on the 7-97 last, I can wear a 14A and a 15AAA. They both feel the same to me when wearing them, even though my actual length should be the 14 when looking at where my ball of my foot sits in the shoe. But since that relatively small increase is so minimal compared to the length of my foot, I really don't feel a difference at all. It also makes fitting different when there are usually not half sizes in most brands above a size 12.

 

 

This is all just for length and width of the shoe, where there are actually different sizes. It doesn't even go into the variance in proportion of the heel, toe box, etc. when increasing size.

 

So it is fine to use the general sizing advice that is given on SF, but you need to always take it with a grain of salt if you are a very small or large size. It is best to ask the professionals or at least look for guys of a similar size. if you are a smaller size, this will be very important because your level of tolerance between sizes most likely will be much smaller than you think. If you are a large size, you should be okay to be able to wear the pair without really noticing to much, even if you are a half size off.

post #1312 of 2840
Just in (X-post):

Enzo Bonafé Balmoral Boot


Enzo Bonafé Derby Boot


We just got a partial delivery of the Derby Boot, more stock incoming.
post #1313 of 2840

@Leaves

 

Love them! Can you describe the calf of the derby boot, Betis Ebonis? Looks like a chocolate/wine shade. 

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@Leaves


Love them! Can you describe the calf of the derby boot, Betis Ebonis? Looks like a chocolate/wine shade. 

Betis is a bit more sporty than the normal "vitello". The color is a proper dark brown hue, maybe the photo makes it look like there's more red in it than there is.
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Final request, any pictures of one of the shoes with peccary face in the wild? :D Bueller?

post #1316 of 2840
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Final request, any pictures of one of the shoes with peccary face in the wild? biggrin.gif Bueller?
Ifi can get one more joiner in my proposed Adelaide GMTO with peccary facing, I promise to post some pics of it IRL :-)
post #1317 of 2840
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Ifi can get one more joiner in my proposed Adelaide GMTO with peccary facing, I promise to post some pics of it IRL :-)


Haha,

I have a feeling MSchapiro might not be able to wait 6months for that picture.

post #1318 of 2840

I have decided I will leave it to chance. If someone buys my AEs or Aldens I will get the pair ;). One black shoe for one black shoe.

post #1319 of 2840
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Originally Posted by MSchapiro View Post

Final request, any pictures of one of the shoes with peccary face in the wild? biggrin.gif Bueller?

Here you go :-*
http://imgur.com/a/DrKuD

With terrible lighting so you can compare to Skoak's ridiculously perfect lighting.
post #1320 of 2840
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Ifi can get one more joiner in my proposed Adelaide GMTO with peccary facing, I promise to post some pics of it IRL :-)

Message me deets please!

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