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post #46 of 53
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Well, there's a fair amount of debate about this historically. Aristotle, as I mentioned, distinguishes between friendships of use (like business associates), pleasure (friends who make us laugh) and virtue/excellence..

Actually, it was me that mentioned you were looking at things from his PoV Now that I am thinking about the Nicomedian Ethics, I think he referred to this as a "complete" friend and "incomplete" friend or relationship.

Again you two, thanks for the reminder why I am glad I was steered away from a philosophy Ph.D. all those years ago

My favorite story about philosophy and philosophers in general is a G.E. Moore story. He was teaching an undergrad class and got the usual, "You can't prove anything is real, that we're not just minds in vats, or that the Cartesian evil genius is not at work". Moore cracked the kid over the head with a large text book and asked, "Well, is that proof that the book is real or do I need to hit you again?" The student of course offered that Moore's theorem was flawless proof of reality
post #47 of 53
Yep, good call, Piobaire!
The Moore story is very funny. I do something similar w/ my students.
post #48 of 53
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It's been a pleasure to use you.
Seriously, a pleasure.

Well, it was as good for me as it was for you, then. =]

What is it that you teach and where, if you don't mind my asking?

Piobaire-

Hah, I fantasize about pursuing a PhD in Philosophy for apparently the same reasons that you don't. Familial commitments tell me otherwise, though.
post #49 of 53
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Piobaire-

Hah, I fantasize about pursuing a PhD in Philosophy for apparently the same reasons that you don't. Familial commitments tell me otherwise, though.

Dedalus:

What steered me away was I had just finished my first year of undergrad, doing all Gen Ed type stuff, including a few philosophy courses that year. I decided I loved philosophy and had found my calling. Over the summer between first and second year, about 1990ish, I made an appointment to talk with the Department Chair for Phil. He said to me in this conversation, "I hope you do not plan to teach, the odds of you getting a tenure track position are next to zero unless you have a sex change." I thanked him for his candor and am now happily a soul-less high income earner in a position where I am regularly headed hunted
post #50 of 53
It seems you really have to be extraordinary not only in philosophy but also a more empirical discipline (neuroscience, technology) to have a shot at a career in philosophy these days.

Good on you for going soulless; Cartesian dualism is silly.
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post #52 of 53
Looks interesting. I hope we have more strange internet discussions in the distant future when I am better read and have more time on my hands at work.
post #53 of 53
Me too. I'm so behind now!
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