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post #91 of 113
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Originally Posted by othertravel View Post

Is there a manufacturers tag? I've seen some recent RLPL SCs made by Cantarelli.

Soz for late reply.. cant find any manufacturers tag.
It would be nice to know.
Edited by Quarks - 2/9/16 at 11:28am
post #92 of 113
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Originally Posted by smittycl View Post

Picked up an Anthony Gray Sharkskin suit last month for $539 at Chevy Chase RL store. Quite the amazing deal as they are clearing out the BL stock. Much cheaper to visit or call a store vice shopping online.

If you search the website for "Anthony Sharkskin" it shows both the remaining BL and the new PL Anthony versions side by side. New PL is $2495 retail compared to $1895 for BL. Not sure what the qualitative difference is.
im curious to know what the differences is between the old (BL) Anthony model and new (PL) since price went up,different maker maybe?
post #93 of 113


Fabrics and some other minor details like the side tab construction and waistband construction. The new sharkskin is also a lighter color than the previous BL sharkskin. 

post #94 of 113
Thread Starter 
I don't think the maker has changed. I have a new Anthony purple label blazer and it seems exactly like the old black label. The sales consultant at Bergdorf Goodman said that there have been no changes other than those mentioned above.
post #95 of 113

$600 is a pretty substantial mark-up without any real qualitative differences. Likely an attempt to lure customers up to full Purple Label much like Sartorio is bit of a fishhook for Kiton .  :fonz:

post #96 of 113
I have RLBL And it has side tabs so I don't think the increase is much from the cut/pattern but maybe better fabric and branding. The purple material used to make the label is much pricier than generic black. smile.gif

I own RLBL and have seen the new RLPL Anthony and I honestly don't see TOO much of an improvement in fabric. I say inflation and marketing are the primary factors.
post #97 of 113
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Originally Posted by smittycl View Post

$600 is a pretty substantial mark-up without any real qualitative differences. Likely an attempt to lure customers up to full Purple Label much like Sartorio is bit of a fishhook for Kiton .  fing02%5B1%5D.gif

It's not really a $600 markup; more like a $200 markup (for the only other suit that seems to have carried over completely):

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=83760546&cp=54803326.54803846&ab=ln_men_cs_suits&parentPage=family

I think the sharkskin must just have upgraded material.
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Originally Posted by SuitedDx View Post

I have RLBL And it has side tabs so I don't think the increase is much from the cut/pattern but maybe better fabric and branding.

The side tab reference was to the positioning and shape of the tabs themselves. The new suits have them a bit lower, off the actual waistband, with wider ends. They're more similar to the rest of the PL line. The new suits also don't come with the sleeve buttons sewn on.
post #98 of 113
Thanks for the clarification. The basted sleeves are a nice touch and I forgot about them. I need to check out the RLPL tabs again to see the difference.
post #99 of 113

I must say I  enjoyed reading through this thread.  You all know a lot about RL. 

 

I only have a few Black Label and Purple label items, but I sure enjoy what I have.  (One Black Label suit, a few shirts/ties and a Romanian made short, tan Harrington style rain- jacket; Purple label: several trousers & shirts & ties & 1 cashmere sport coat.)  Not trying to boast, just want to establish a point of reference.

 

One question, however, now that Blue Label (or Polo) suits are priced at about the $1,000.00 mark (and some are still made in Italy at that price point), is there any discernible drop in quality in Polo suits from when they cost approx. $1,500.00?  I only have 2 "Old" Blue Label suits, one a slim fitting model I bought in NYC at Bloomies in 2007 and the other a nice condition thrifted one I bought in about 2014 here in SF.

post #100 of 113
The Polo tailored items fromSlovakia are half canvassed.

The ones from Italy I believe are now fused.
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This would help explain why my recently acquired Slovakia-made Polo suit fits so nicely and drapes even better.

post #102 of 113

I am torn in my response. According to the SAs I have talked to, Polo has moved 'down market', even if all prices haven't (witness the cable-knit cashmere sweater going from made in Italy, to Italian yarn but made in China, to full on China disclosure while remaining $398.00).

 

On the one hand, the cuts of the new Polo suits are much more modern and fit splendidly, a 40R is actually a 40R, instead of being painfully loose and baggy.

 

That being said, as always, there are some great Polo pieces that are made in Italy (and are a bit pricier, almost close to BL/PL now) and are certainly close to the quality BL and now PL. 

 

As with Ralph Lauren always, you just need to know what you are buying to assure its not utter crap, if you do, you usually get and excellently constructed and unique piece.

post #103 of 113
I can't stand having unfinished sleeve buttons on an OTR suit........in addition to the price increase, you have now incurred the added cost of getting the sleeves finished by default.

Not a good look censored.gif
post #104 of 113

Are the Slovakia-made suits still by Corneliani? Didn't think they did any production outside of Italy, so I'm guessing it's an entirely different maker.

post #105 of 113
It's actually much better to have them unfinished. A decent store includes adjusting the sleeves and adding buttons. eBay purchases of course do not include this. I mentally figure the tailoring into the equation when I buy.

Just took the RLBL sharkskin suit to the tailor. It will be just over $100 total Imthmk after a minor sleeve adjustment as well as the pants. Well worth it.
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