[quote=STYLESTUDENT,23 Sep. 2004, 2:26 Ken, I have "F" width (UK size) for Churchs and C&J. The Pediwear site identifies the Radley last to be in an "F" width. The "F" corresponds to an "E" U.S. width (which is what I wear), not a "D", for Church and C&J. On the other hand, Paul Stuart and Bennie's both identify all Grenson as a "D" width. Is it that Grenson makes an unusually narrow shoe compared to Church or C&J? Thanks for your help.[/quote] There are no easy answers to this question, gentlemen. For me, I think it depends more on the last, than the maker. I find the same thing in Church and C&J, both of which I have bought in London. Maybe I have forgiving feet, but I find that I can wear several sizes. I really wear a 10.5C in USA measure, but I find that a 10D fits me nearly as well. Similiarly, I can usually wear either a 9.5E or a 9F in most UK sized shoes I buy in London. In both Church and C&J, the fit seems to depend more on the last; for example, I think that the C&J Weymouth runs a bit narrow. Although Grenson obviously uses different lasts, it does not identify them in the various models. I have tried on a lot of the Grensons at Bennie's, have bought them in 2 different sizes and am intimately aquainted with the following eleven (many of which have no established model name) for which I have given the model no. and size: 1) "Oundle" plain cap toe oxford in cognac, 8001/17, 10D 2) "Rugby" brogue cap toe in cognac, 8002/17, 10D 3) "Stowe" plain toe with loop in cognac, 8003/17, 10D 4) Full brogue cap toe in cognac, 8004/17, 10.5C 5) "Ghillie" oxford in cognac, 8027/17, 10D 6) Chiseled plain toe with edge stitching in cognac, 8102/17, 10DÂ Â Â Â Â 7) "Radley" penny loafer in cognac, 8009/17, 10.5C 8) "Radley" penny loafer in burgundy, 8009/15, 10D 9) Braided tassel loafer in cognac, 8010/17, 10D 10) Spectator tassel loafer in tan/creme, 8045/3469, 10D 11) Penny loafer with short saddle and Italian style toe cap in antiqued tan, 8056/17, 10D Of these, only nos. 3 and 6 seem to run narrow. They are obviously on a very different last; they even look narrower. As to the rest, they seem to fit like a typical AE or Alden, except that I find that Aldens on the "Barrie" last seem to run a bit wider. However, there are no hard and fast rules. The Piedmont Road store had on the rack a size 10D loafer, just like no. 8 above, but in antiqued tan. I tried it on. It swallowed me. It seemed like an E width, at least. It may have been mis-marked.