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Originally Posted by greger View Post

Wonder why? Seems like some blacks have done well in unions. Sanders seems better for unions to me.

People don't vote with their logic, they vote with their gut. My guess is that Sanders just seems like a white nerd and blacks don't like white nerds.
post #767 of 3309
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

Dude, he's one several medium size states, like Colorado or Kansas and been very close in several others.

His problem is that his margins of victory are too small in the decent sized states, while Hillary is killing him in many contests. He needs to win a decent sized state by more than a few percent for the math to work.
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The real point is that in states Democrats have a snow balls chance in hell of wining he is beating Clinton. Hilary won Texas, sure, but there is no way a Dem carries that in the general election. A state like Colorado is going to be in play come election time and winning those states is key to winning the election.

Hillary won Virginia.

Voting patterns in the primaries are always different from the generals. You have a much smaller pool and one that's pre-selected. The real question is going to be turnout in the swing states. Do Bernie voters show up to vote for Hillary or not? They're almost certainly not going to vote for a Republican. If Bernie wins, are more moderate Hillary voters going to be willing to vote for him?


The other thing with Bernie is that the hate machine hasn't been cranked up on him. Hillary's been blasted hard for the last couple years, and many people have been exposed to it going back to the 90s. How will voters respond to hearing "democratic socialist" ads for six straight months?
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

People don't vote with their logic, they vote with their gut. My guess is that Sanders just seems like a white nerd and blacks don't like white nerds.

New York Jewish nerds, at that.
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

Why do you say she's an awful candidate ? If anything, she seems like a very professional and incredibly well-prepared one. (Not sure what the second part means either)
She is absolutely an awful candidate. She's shrill and unlikeable. Any time she is subjected to actual questions and followups she looks horrible. She and the press have a script and any deviations from that script are problematic for her. I also think she has serious health problems.
post #770 of 3309
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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

She is absolutely an awful candidate. She's shrill and unlikeable. Any time she is subjected to actual questions and followups she looks horrible. She and the press have a script and any deviations from that script are problematic for her. I also think she has serious health problems.

What kind of health problems?
post #771 of 3309
She fell and hit her head in 2012 and there has been extensive speculation that she was concussed and also had a blood clot, and that these have impacted her cognitive abilities. There have been lots of reports of her looking frail on the campaign trail and that she's micromanaged beyond what one might expect of a presidential candidate, due to her poor health.
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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

She fell and hit her head in 2012 and there has been extensive speculation that she was concussed and also had a blood clot, and that these have impacted her cognitive abilities. There have been lots of reports of her looking frail on the campaign trail and that she's micromanaged beyond what one might expect of a presidential candidate, due to her poor health.

This will probably give Trump some ammo.

If Trump can pin some poor health rap on Hilly ( true or not ), it will be worth a lot of votes.

How many votes was "Low energy Jeb" or "little Marco" worth?
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post


This will probably give Trump some ammo.

If Trump can pin some poor health rap on Hilly ( true or not ), it will be worth a lot of votes.

How many votes was "Low energy Jeb" or "little Marco" worth?

All he needs to do is to hammer her on how much of a corporate sell out she is, which is true btw. I think he will destroy her in debates.
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

Why do you say she's an awful candidate ? If anything, she seems like a very professional and incredibly well-prepared one. (Not sure what the second part means either)

Under FBI investigation
She'd be the second-oldest president upon election
She tells stupid, easily catchable lies. This isn't just a right-wing talking point. Sniper fire in Bosnia, the various Ben-Ghazi stuff, pretending she thought "wiping a computer" meant "like, with a cloth or something". Just obvious, kid-in-the-cookie-jar stuff
She physically unattractive.
She's a Democrat succeeding an 8 year Democratic president.
Lack of appeal to younger voters.
An uncharismatic speaking style.
Not much on her resume besides supporting things that are unpopular now/

Really, if her last name weren't Clinton, and her party hadn't cleared the primaries for her, she'd be toast. She's lucky to be running against a socialist 74 year old Jew who talks like a caricature.

And then, in the general, she gets to face Donald Trump, who's even older, lies even more ridiculously than her, and has an equally thin, flip-floppy resume.
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Have pity on a sickly old lady,

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I can't remember all of the points, but the best summation of Hillary's server scandal was something like this:
There is no server
Okay, there is a server, but no classified material passed through it
Okay, some classified information passed through it, but it wasn't marked classified when it passed through
Okay, some was classified when it was passed through, but we didn't know it was classified
Okay, we knew it was classified, but we didn't remove the classified markings,
Okay we removed the classified markings, but nobody was harmed
Okay, maybe some agents were killed, but.....

And on and on and on. This is the Clinton modus operandi in full view. Not only is she corrupt, she's incompetent too and if not for an enabling press, would probably have died in prison long ago, or at home surrounded by her cats and girlfriend.
post #777 of 3309
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Originally Posted by FLMountainMan View Post

Really, if her last name weren't Clinton, and her party hadn't cleared the primaries for her, she'd be toast.
My wife was saying that Hillary is "easily the most qualified Presidential candidate in recent history." My wife gets really prickly about gendered issues sometimes, but it was like, really? Two terms in the Senate and a spin as Secretary of State is nothing to scoff at, but really?

She had to admit that George HW's score of military, Congress, UN ambassador, CIA director, and then VP was superior. Grudgingly admit.
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And then, in the general, she gets to face Donald Trump, who's even older, lies even more ridiculously than her, and has an equally thin, flip-floppy resume.

There's a weird symmetry here. The Republican field is crazy weak, to the point that they're going to nominate a narcissistic asshole with no government experience (or Ted Cruz). Hillary is the establishment darling on the Democratic side, and she's only going to win because there aren't any better candidates than Sanders.

What a weird election. Obama beating Hillary in 2008 seemed like lightning in a bottle, but she's really showing that she has major weaknesses as a candidate.
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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

She is absolutely an awful candidate. She's shrill and unlikeable. Any time she is subjected to actual questions and followups she looks horrible. She and the press have a script and any deviations from that script are problematic for her. I also think she has serious health problems.

Thus spake Trump ?
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Originally Posted by FLMountainMan View Post

Under FBI investigation
She'd be the second-oldest president upon election
She tells stupid, easily catchable lies. This isn't just a right-wing talking point. Sniper fire in Bosnia, the various Ben-Ghazi stuff, pretending she thought "wiping a computer" meant "like, with a cloth or something". Just obvious, kid-in-the-cookie-jar stuff
She physically unattractive.
She's a Democrat succeeding an 8 year Democratic president.
Lack of appeal to younger voters.
An uncharismatic speaking style.
Not much on her resume besides supporting things that are unpopular now/

Really, if her last name weren't Clinton, and her party hadn't cleared the primaries for her, she'd be toast. She's lucky to be running against a socialist 74 year old Jew who talks like a caricature.

And then, in the general, she gets to face Donald Trump, who's even older, lies even more ridiculously than her, and has an equally thin, flip-floppy resume.



I want the old FLMM back, please :-)
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HRC: "If you play with matches, you're going to start a fire you can't control."



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