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post #76 of 3333
It's her turn,dammit! We owe her.
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I have to admit I'm enjoying how willing some folks are to believe anything she says in regards to bribes donations to the Clinton Foundation.


That's really the point, isn't it?

We make harsh judgments about corruption in other countries, yet we are ready, willing, and eager to elect a couple who sells influence openly and notoriously. They don't even try to cover this up. I mean, she was Secretary of State when these bribes came in. That is in your face corruption, and yet she will be the leader of the seemingly free world.

There was a philosopher named Vico who came up with cycles of civilization. We are going to be eating raw snails soon. We apparently have just given up on what we built. We don't care about our institutions. I just wanna a flat screen TV and heated rear seats.

Hillary 2016.
post #78 of 3333

Who wins in a fight, Koch Industries or the Clinton Foundation?

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Who wins in a fight, the Koch Industries or the Clinton Foundation?

Clinton Foundation. The Koch's only have their own money and they have to earn that. The Clinton Foundation does not have to earn money and is tapped into multiple sources, including some sovereign funding.

Also, the Koch's have a widely dispersed set of interests whereas the Clinton Foundation has a very narrow set of interests, i.e. the Clintons.
post #80 of 3333

You're right. I think Mayweather would win. 

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Who wins in a fight, Koch Industries or the Clinton Foundation?

Depends, is the fight "Getting Clintons elected" or "Getting more money for the Kochs?"
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Depends, is the fight "Getting Clintons elected" or "Getting more money for the Kochs?"

Your suppressed premise here is that "Getting Clintons elected" is not dependent on "Getting Clintons more money."
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You're right. I think Mayweather would win. 

I sometimes feel bad for Ethan when he thinks he's going to really deflect from the topic to make it about Repubs and then it doesn't work.
post #84 of 3333

Was not my intention at all. I was more trying to conjure up a Celebrity Deathmatch vision of Hilary and Bill fighting the Kock Brothers while the dissenting Koch siblings cheered for the Clintons. 

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Your suppressed premise here is that "Getting Clintons elected" is not dependent on "Getting Clintons more money."

The difference though is that the Kochs aren't personally invested in getting "their" candidates elected. It's part of their larger campaign to push policies that are beneficial to their interest, ie, making more money. The Clintons fail if Hillary doesn't end up in office. I don't think "raking in fat stacks" would be satisfying for them on its own.


But sure, they do need to raise money to accomplish that goal.
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The difference though is that the Kochs aren't personally invested in getting "their" candidates elected. It's part of their larger campaign to push policies that are beneficial to their interest, ie, making more money. The Clintons fail if Hillary doesn't end up in office. I don't think "raking in fat stacks" would be satisfying for them on its own.


But sure, they do need to raise money to accomplish that goal.

This is not 100% true. They are pretty principled libertarians, and they have funded initiatives to eliminate subsidies that they currently benefit from.

Will most of the policies they advocate for benefit them? Yes. Do they only push policies that benefit their financial interests? No.
post #87 of 3333
Why Al Sharpton Should Run The Clinton Foundation

from Fortune Magazine,

Of course, his contribution may be more old-fashioned: fires that destroy tax records. In his own low tech way, Rev. Sharpton has managed to keep tax problems under raps that would be catastrophic for mere mortals. And similarly, perhaps we all will learn that no one in government knows how to use email except Hillary Clinton. As Mrs. Clinton’s remarkable e-mail drama is acted out, Al Sharpton seems a natural fit. In fact, not only should Rev. Sharpton think about applying for the top Clinton Foundation job. How about running the IRS too?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/05/15/why-al-sharpton-should-run-the-clinton-foundation/

Big Al and the Clintons, what a trio.
post #88 of 3333
Steal a little and they throw you in jail,
Steal a lot and they make you a king.
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Nil posted that as well.

We'll refer to Bill as POSOTUS.
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