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and adding to jobs being taken by outsourcing/immigration add this- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/14/watch-uber-launches-driverless-car-service/
matter of a decade or two and you will have millions of angry jobless taxi and truck drivers

all of this seems like we're heading for unsustainable clusterfuck of situation to me, but maybe that's just my pessism
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I do feel west is losing something and might collapse in matter of decades.Maybe another crash and we could have another bolshevik revolution in some European countries, it does happen when people are sufficiently pissed and they are on the trail there.

People have been screaming about the end for decades.

"Another" Bolshevik revolution is a weird thing to say in 2016, isn't it?
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that's why he has my sympathy

he is a terrible messenger of a really important message, let's face it he is ignorant on too many issues, had not improved his knowledge much since the last year, he's arrogant and an asshole.

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Both USA and EU are getting more oligarchical, more and more wealth is in the hands of fewer and fewer people, outsourcing jobs, uncontrolled immigration are doing harm to working class while they benefit the rich(yea im an undercover commie).

 

 

So the answer is to elect a billionaire who has a long history of hiring illegals and has clothing line that is made in China?  That's just friggin stupid

 

 

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some highlights of the emails so far:


some of these stuff I guess many of us suspected already

 

These commentators are clueless

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^ so?! Posted more for the quickly accessible content not commentary. I won't read thousands of emails myself to find interesting stuff bro, that's their job :P i'll happily read those most interesting when they come to surface

besides what was said and about toxic us-saudi relationship is pretty much on spot, btw you take an issue with any particular point that was made?
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So the answer is to elect a billionaire who has a long history of hiring illegals and has clothing line that is made in China? That's just friggin stupid

that's a still better chance than a person who's rhetoric is exactly the opposite, like i said likely this would end like Obama's term

However argument about ties made in china is weak, first of all 99,9% would do the same as long as business is your main concern. Secondly his ties are not really a significant part of his business to be that much of a concern if he's president.

He said same stuff 30yrs ago as he says now, that imo is some indication he might do what he says because he probably believes that. But I'm willing to admit it's not a big chance.


same reason why id think sanders could change us foreign policy, he probably wouldn't but there's a chance because he was honest and consistent on that for years. But ofc on some level this is reading from cow-shit because unfortunately we live in the world of insufficient information. ANyway it's shame it's Hillary running not him frown.gif
Edited by wojt - 10/18/16 at 7:16pm
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that's why he has my sympathy

he is a terrible messenger of a really important message, let's face it he is ignorant on too many issues, had not improved his knowledge much since the last year, he's arrogant and an asshole.

Having said that, would Trump do anything to help it? Maybe, but knowing history of politics probably not. But he is more likely to do so than Clinton who is in exact opposition to what these people want. Probably it will end like Obama, but at least it would be like standing on the cliff and taking a step side ways not ahead, so who knows maybe there is a patch of dirt there.

I'd give him more credit if he wasn't running for President. It's a meaningful message, but he has no answer or even the vestiges of an answer. Unless the people he's harnessed can mobilize and get heard by more serious voices, nothing is really going to change.

And speaking as one of those Coastal Elites, a lot of this stuff runs directly in contrast to my interests. I'd be happy to fund some programs to bring those parts of the country into the 21st century, but I really don't want the same kind of country that the average Trump supporter seems to want.
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Both USA and EU are getting more oligarchical, more and more wealth is in the hands of fewer and fewer people, outsourcing jobs, uncontrolled immigration are doing harm to working class while they benefit the rich(yea im an undercover commie). Another aspect is pussification of our culture, constant calls to apologize for everything. What's sad is that for example calls for video game and tv censorship came from the religious left now they come from supposedly liberal left. It feels like many country will become much like Sweden but with inferior healthcare and social services biggrin.gif I do feel west is losing something and might collapse in matter of decades.Maybe another crash and we could have another bolshevik revolution in some European countries, it does happen when people are sufficiently pissed and they are on the trail there. Brexit was largely an act of defiance to global corporatism voting Trump for many people would be very much like that.
There's a certain irony in a narcissistic New York City plutocrat standing in opposite to the status quo.

The US is weird in that we've historically been capable of making dramatic changes, but only when it appears to be too late. We don't have the weight of history that constrains some other cultures. We're kind of sweeping back towards a couple simultaneous low points, and I think this election is sort of an epitome of that. Might take some painful events, but I think the "death of the West" is dramatically overstated. Still better to live here than anywhere else, that's for damn sure.


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constant calls to apologize for everything. What's sad is that for example calls for video game and tv censorship came from the religious left now they come from supposedly liberal left

This is almost equally a phenomena of the religious right. Some people just really love being victims. There's already a significant backlash against this, and I wonder how long it'll really remain influential. It's not really perpetuated by the government anyway, so I'm not sure how it ties into a Presidential election other than making a statement.
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There's a certain irony in a narcissistic New York City plutocrat standing in opposite to the status quo.
 

 

not at all. narcissists classically view themselves as a species apart. 

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^ so?! they went through the emails and found stuff, I won't read all the emails myself to find interesting stuff bro


besides what was said and about toxic us-saudi relationship is pretty much on spot, btw you take an issue with any particular point that was made?

that's a still better chance than a person who's rhetoric is exactly the opposite, like i said likely this would end like Obama's term


 

The faux outrage is way over the top.  Yeah government officials don't turn around and tell the electorate everything that they know.  Why?  Because life isn't a reality show.  The Saudis and the Qataries (sp?) have elements within their countries that fund extremist groups.  Is "water is wet" the next revelation? 

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However argument about ties made in china is weak, first of all 99,9% would do the same as long as business is your main concern. Secondly his ties are not really a significant part of his business to be that much of a concern if he's president.
 

"his ties are not really a significant part of his business to be that much of a concern if he's president."   You can't be this clueless.  He's on the road harping about businesses that moved overseas and promising to tax the hell out of them so they cannot sell their products in the US yet his clothing line as well as Ivanka's clothing line are all either made in China or Vietnam.  It's a friggin textbook definition of hypocrisy.  

For the record he sells wallets, glasses, cuff links, ties, shirts and suits. 





I grew up in NYC so Trump is old hat to me. He's a rich blowhard that talks like a man of the streets but was born into money. Your average bumpkin from West Boa-buh-phuck only knows him from The Apprentice and thinks he is some type of financial genius. "George Bush is an underdog..." Does that sound like a keen political mind?

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same reason why id think sanders could change us foreign policy, he probably wouldn't but there's a chance because he was honest and consistent on that for years. But ofc on some level this is reading from cow-shit because unfortunately we live in the world of insufficient information. ANyway it's shame it's Hillary running not him  


Bernie didn't get the nomination because he didn't get the votes. That's how we do things over here in the States.
Edited by Rumpelstiltskin - 10/18/16 at 7:44pm
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Strikingly similar styles

Interesting to note one "sparks fury" and the other only bothers der Trumpster.

    Well of course  everyone is in awe of how well he lets criticism and ridicule just flow off him like water from a ducks back

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"his ties are not really a significant part of his business to be that much of a concern if he's president."   You can't be this clueless.  He's on the road harping about businesses that moved overseas and promising to tax the hell out of them so they cannot sell their products in the US yet his clothing line as well as Ivanka's clothing line are all either made in China or Vietnam.  It's a friggin textbook definition of hypocrisy.  
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He's also pretty much made a career out of fucking over smaller business owners who work for him. But he's the champion of the working man now!
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trump is shit but his candidacy is transcendent insofar as it exposes the amorality of party politics. 

 

it's counterintuitive but if he can gross out enough people he's got a shot. it's like a reverse pie-eating contest (read that as you will) where the only real loser is the audience. 

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But two guys on reddit said it's all true SO STOP BEING A SHEEPLE!!!11!


Reddit, badmouth Obama?  What planet are you living on?

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The faux outrage is way over the top.  Yeah government officials don't turn around and tell the electorate everything that they know.  Why?  Because life isn't a reality show.  The Saudis and the Qataries (sp?) have elements within their countries that fund extremist groups.  Is "water is wet" the next revelation? 
"his ties are not really a significant part of his business to be that much of a concern if he's president."   You can't be this clueless.  He's on the road harping about businesses that moved overseas and promising to tax the hell out of them so they cannot sell their products in the US yet his clothing line as well as Ivanka's clothing line are all either made in China or Vietnam.  It's a friggin textbook definition of hypocrisy.  
No it is not textbook definition of hypocrisy. It is example of failure to understand the meaning of words.

It will only become a hypocrisy if Trump gets elected and does nothing about it and keeps making his stuff in China.

I think you need to back away from computer and get alone with Webster dictionary. You have very rudimentary understanding of what words of your native language mean.
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trump is shit but his candidacy is transcendent insofar as it exposes the amorality of party politics. 

it's counterintuitive but if he can gross out enough people he's got a shot. it's like a reverse pie-eating contest (read that as you will) where the only real loser is the audience. 

+100
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Will the WikiLeaks crisis mortally wound Hillary now that the Democrats have got involved in trying to silence the truth?

https://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/wikileaks-releases-documents-detailing-plot-to-frame-julian-assange
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