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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

you're quick to forget smear campaign agianst sanders and his supporters and false accusations of misogyny by clinton campaign

right cuz nobody has ever accused clinton of playing the vagina card

nobody else uses gender as a smear campaign right?



i dont understand why clinton isn't allowed to use the vagina card when her opponents get to use the penis card
post #1877 of 3290

Interesting just how driven some folks are by their insecurities surrounding the other 1/2 of the population of the planet

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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

^lol?
I think part of her success is a fact that she has a vagina and she milked it with whole bernie bros campaign and bs talk about glass ceiling

There's no way being a woman is a net positive in a national election in the US.

People who are going to vote for a woman because she has a vagina are going to vote (D) no matter what, and lots of people are going to hold a female candidate to a higher standard than a male one if not refuse to vote for a woman entirely. It might have helped in the primary but even there I doubt it. She won among older voters and lost among younger ones, including women.

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Yea dude but majority of the voters are women, and women overwhelmingly support Hillary. There was a poll showing Hillary leads 59 to 35 among women i think it was in July so it could be outdated but that was the trend along the whole elections.

That says as much about Trump as it does Hillary. His favorability ratings are terrible with women, and it has everything to do with who he is and what he's said, not because Clinton is a woman.
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

he wants to bomb iraq's oil fields whether or not there are civilians

He's actually repeated the "we should just take all their oil" line recently. And people call Trump the "non-interventionist."



This is one of those places where just Trump talking is doing damage to the US. People in the Middle East hear this stuff, and you have a guy talking about literally annexing oil fields. That's the conspiracy theory we worked pretty hard to reject when Bush invaded, and now it's a serious policy proposal from the Republican candidate. Unbelievable.
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He's not talking about annexing the oil fields, just occupying them temporarily to prevent their exploitation by terrorists, presumably pursuant to some sort of profit sharing arrangement with the Iraqi government.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

That's the conspiracy theory we worked pretty hard to reject when Bush invaded, and now it's a serious policy proposal from the Republican candidate. Unbelievable.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-06/iraq-inquiry-shows-oil-was-a-consideration-for-u-k-before-war
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/secret-memos-expose-link-between-oil-firms-and-invasion-of-iraq-2269610.html

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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

There's no way being a woman is a net positive in a national election in the US.
People who are going to vote for a woman because she has a vagina are going to vote (D) no matter what, and lots of people are going to hold a female candidate to a higher standard than a male one if not refuse to vote for a woman entirely. It might have helped in the primary but even there I doubt it. She won among older voters and lost among younger ones, including women.

It has some advantages, you can be well below intellectual standard and still be a politician see complete dumbfucks like Sarah Palin. If you are in politics and you're a women it does hold certain advantages because so few women are drawn to politics. Even in my backwards country last 2 PMs were women. For example you are viewed my favourably by low information women voters. Also women are more likely to vote (D) anyway and while maybe being a women is still a drawback for (R) it's for sure not a drawback for all kinds of democrats, progressives, independants etc

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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

That says as much about Trump as it does Hillary. His favorability ratings are terrible with women, and it has everything to do with who he is and what he's said, not because Clinton is a woman.

She did beat Sanders too; (45+ segment is bigger in terms of sheer numbers too)


Edited by wojt - 9/12/16 at 6:42pm
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

sure just like part of every male's politician's success is that they have penises and they milk it for all its worth

What's this about penis milking? I thought that cost extra!
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

He's not talking about annexing the oil fields, just occupying them temporarily to prevent their exploitation by terrorists, presumably pursuant to some sort of profit sharing arrangement with the Iraqi government.

Right because that's a whole lot more reasonable and doable than outright annexing.
post #1885 of 3290
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

It has some advantages, you can be well below intellectual standard and still be a politician see complete dumbfucks like Sarah Palin. If you are in politics and you're a women it does hold certain advantages because so few women are drawn to politics. Even in my backwards country last 2 PMs were women. For example you are viewed my favourably by low information women voters. Also women are more likely to vote (D) anyway and while maybe being a women is still a drawback for (R) it's for sure not a drawback for all kinds of democrats, progressives, independants etc
She did beat Sanders too; (45+ segment is bigger in terms of sheer numbers too)


Of course there are a few advantages. Being a woman isn't a complete disadvantage in all facets. But is it an overall net positive? No.
post #1886 of 3290
yea maybe overall it's a draw back but mostly for (R) women-, for (D) women it does not seem to be so or it's negligable
post #1887 of 3290
Maybe for (D) constituents it's negligible but across the general population?
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Thread Starter 
If Thatcher could win with a vagina surely Clinton can.
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

Maybe for (D) constituents it's negligible but across the general population?

here's one study that goes into this with some detail, but i guess it's overall hard to estimate

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-you-more-likely-to-vote-for-a-woman-or-a-man/
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

You can't act like you have some principled concern for limiting the power of the President and then elect a guy who's running on a cult of personality.

 

So I take it you voted against this guy?

 

 

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