Originally Posted by suited
Throughout this entire election I've been calling out the myth of this being unique to Trump. The event hosted by Matt Lauer was Clinton's chance to prove me (and a lot of us wrong). She failed miserably. She was no more detailed than Trump on foreign policy, and that's been the case throughout the campaign. But anyway, even if what you said is true, these concerns were nowhere to be found when Barack Obama was running which leads me to believe they aren't real concerns at all, but just another attack on Trump cause he's Trump. I won't even address the racism thing because it's been beaten to death.
are you kidding she was the friggin secretary of state. she might not be as adequate in conveying that through a public forum, but damn. no more detailed than trump? he claimed he knew more than the generals, the people he said he gets foreign policy advice from deny ever talking about it with him, he wants to bomb iraq's oil fields whether or not there are civilians, he had absolutely no clue what the "crates of cash in iran" situation was at all just the usual conspiracy theory, he claim obama is responsible for pulling out when bush is the one that signed it into law and obama followed through on it, he doesnt understand that trade deficits are different from a government owing another country money
his own party leaders dont even think he's qualified to lead on foreign policy
this is literally and figuratively insane. you think a former secretary of state doesn't know as much foreign policy as a businessman with absolutely no political experience, no real foreign policy advisers, and dozens of unapologetic foreign policy gaffes.
Originally Posted by wojt
likely he didn't personally oversee this, even if he did that's may not even be an actual proof of racism that could be simple greed as well
proves nothing, was never convicted if lawsuit was settled for smaller amount of money likely they didnt have good case to begin with
his father had like 250m, he has 4bln, none of his siblings is a billionaire, so he is actually pretty succesful in that department
he won't insist on deporting all illegals, he wrote about this bs in his book, he just wants to get the base excited with grand ideas like the wall since nobody would be excited if he talked about buildings this 2m barbed wire fence. wall that gets higher everytime you hate on him is quite amazing though.
well he doesn't he doubles down, that's why people like him- he's unapologetic
he did donate,but only after he was called out that he did not
[name="indesertum" url="/t/471913/why-hillary-will-be-the-next-potus/1830#post_8571582"]He literally told his VP candidate that he would be in charge of the country and he himself would be concerned with Making America Great Again (tm)
his son supposedly said told this to John Kasich, so that doesn't really count as literally[/quote]
im not sure what you mean the wall gets higher every time I hate on him considering i never even mentioned details. but so basically your argument is that trump is straight bald facing lying to gain support. that's great. first the "building tipped over on its side" wall is going to be a 2m barbed wire then it's going to be just more boots on the ground then it's going to be wall in spirit
at best you're saying he knows and we should know that all the oft repeated promises he has made are straight up lies and shouldn't be taken for face value. then which part of what comes out of his mouth are we supposed to believe actually reflect what will happen if he becomes president?
let's say John Kasich was straight up lying. This would mean a Republican governor and former presidential primary candidates was trying to damage his own party's presidential nominee for some reason after the primaries were over. This of course makes great sense. Would really help his future runs.
sure ok being unapologetic can seem appealing. but so now we're admitting as a president he's going to be unapologetic about being a racist and a misogynist. that's who people want to elect for president. that's just wonderful.Edited by indesertum - 9/12/16 at 5:58pm