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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37336164

When the BBC reports I believe.

So here's my take on this: the Clinton campaign fucked up. The "over heated" reports, with clear physical symptoms of weakness being displayed, and then the diagnosis of pneumonia will not play well with undecideds that already do not quite trust her. Basically this is just the typical Clinton ploy of bullshit, bullshit, and bullshit until you can't bullshit and have to reveal some truth. It will lend credibility to the coordinated attacks on her due to health.

Let's be honest here, Trump is bullshit, bullshit, bullshit until he gets bullshitting and everyone knows it at this point. You like to contrast the two dominant US parties, here there are no two parties, just bad and considerably more bad, to a level where the bad one deserves to win at all costs.
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Let's be honest here, Trump is bullshit, bullshit, bullshit until he gets bullshitting and everyone knows it at this point. You like to contrast the two dominant US parties, here there are no two parties, just bad and considerably more bad, to a level where the bad one deserves to win at all costs.

I was merely explaining, in my view, why Clinton might have problems for this minor health incident. Contrast away but the Clinton M.O. Can be a liability.
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As Fuuma points out, whatever health issues Hillary may have, she continues to be not Trump, which is her primary (and sufficient) qualification to all but a few middle aged white women.
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Can we just all vote for Cthulu? I mean fuck with settling for the least evil.

I seriously considered buying a Cthulu Tiki mug yesterday. I might actually go back and get it.
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well Hillary is for sure more corruptible than Cthulu and compared to Trump Cthulu can be called nothing less than a supreme intellectual so I think he would be viable in these elections
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And to think we could have had a weekend at Bernie's.

Man, this little gem was seriously overlooked.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I was merely explaining, in my view, why Clinton might have problems for this minor health incident. Contrast away but the Clinton M.O. Can be a liability.

Hillary has three problems now: she is a Clinton, she is a woman and she seems a little weak with that incident. The last one is the least of her problems but it might be just enough to make her lose, I agree. From an objective point of view Harambe is still a better candidate than Trump although I have some sympathy for the fuck all these insiders and experts mindset that many Trump voters have, this has nothing to do with Trump himself, he's a complete fucker.
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^lol?
I think part of her success is a fact that she has a vagina and she milked it with whole bernie bros campaign and bs talk about glass ceiling
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Hillary has three problems now: she is a Clinton, she is a woman and she seems a little weak with that incident. The last one is the least of her problems but it might be just enough to make her lose, I agree. From an objective point of view Harambe is still a better candidate than Trump although I have some sympathy for the fuck all these insiders and experts mindset that many Trump voters have, this has nothing to do with Trump himself, he's a complete fucker.

He hasn't taken Fortune 100 money = good.

He bilked the desperate and the gullible with an unchartered "university" = so much worse.
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^lol?
I think part of her success is a fact that she has a vagina and she milked it with whole bernie bros campaign and bs talk about glass ceiling

Nope, (american) men tend to react badly to women in position of authority and this harms her with a segment that would normally be ok if it was a dude with naked ambition and a cold personality. Here's a somewhat ok summary of something that should be pretty obvious to you if you've followed american politics for a few yrs (note that I dislike Hillary too):

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/10/fear-of-a-female-president/497564/
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Throughout this entire election I've been calling out the myth of this being unique to Trump. The event hosted by Matt Lauer was Clinton's chance to prove me (and a lot of us wrong). She failed miserably. She was no more detailed than Trump on foreign policy, and that's been the case throughout the campaign. But anyway, even if what you said is true, these concerns were nowhere to be found when Barack Obama was running which leads me to believe they aren't real concerns at all, but just another attack on Trump cause he's Trump. I won't even address the racism thing because it's been beaten to death.

are you kidding she was the friggin secretary of state. she might not be as adequate in conveying that through a public forum, but damn. no more detailed than trump? he claimed he knew more than the generals, the people he said he gets foreign policy advice from deny ever talking about it with him, he wants to bomb iraq's oil fields whether or not there are civilians, he had absolutely no clue what the "crates of cash in iran" situation was at all just the usual conspiracy theory, he claim obama is responsible for pulling out when bush is the one that signed it into law and obama followed through on it, he doesnt understand that trade deficits are different from a government owing another country money

his own party leaders dont even think he's qualified to lead on foreign policy


this is literally and figuratively insane. you think a former secretary of state doesn't know as much foreign policy as a businessman with absolutely no political experience, no real foreign policy advisers, and dozens of unapologetic foreign policy gaffes.
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likely he didn't personally oversee this, even if he did that's may not even be an actual proof of racism that could be simple greed as well
proves nothing, was never convicted if lawsuit was settled for smaller amount of money likely they didnt have good case to begin with
that's true
his father had like 250m, he has 4bln, none of his siblings is a billionaire, so he is actually pretty succesful in that department
true
he won't insist on deporting all illegals, he wrote about this bs in his book, he just wants to get the base excited with grand ideas like the wall since nobody would be excited if he talked about buildings this 2m barbed wire fence. wall that gets higher everytime you hate on him is quite amazing though.
well he doesn't he doubles down, that's why people like him- he's unapologetic
he did donate,but only after he was called out that he did not

[name="indesertum" url="/t/471913/why-hillary-will-be-the-next-potus/1830#post_8571582"]He literally told his VP candidate that he would be in charge of the country and he himself would be concerned with Making America Great Again (tm)

his son supposedly said told this to John Kasich, so that doesn't really count as literally[/quote]

im not sure what you mean the wall gets higher every time I hate on him considering i never even mentioned details. but so basically your argument is that trump is straight bald facing lying to gain support. that's great. first the "building tipped over on its side" wall is going to be a 2m barbed wire then it's going to be just more boots on the ground then it's going to be wall in spirit

at best you're saying he knows and we should know that all the oft repeated promises he has made are straight up lies and shouldn't be taken for face value. then which part of what comes out of his mouth are we supposed to believe actually reflect what will happen if he becomes president?

let's say John Kasich was straight up lying. This would mean a Republican governor and former presidential primary candidates was trying to damage his own party's presidential nominee for some reason after the primaries were over. This of course makes great sense. Would really help his future runs.

sure ok being unapologetic can seem appealing. but so now we're admitting as a president he's going to be unapologetic about being a racist and a misogynist. that's who people want to elect for president. that's just wonderful.
Edited by indesertum - 9/12/16 at 5:58pm
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Yea dude but majority of the voters are women, and women overwhelmingly support Hillary. There was a poll showing Hillary leads 59 to 35 among women i think it was in July so it could be outdated but that was the trend along the whole elections.
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

^lol?
I think part of her success is a fact that she has a vagina and she milked it with whole bernie bros campaign and bs talk about glass ceiling

sure just like part of every male's politician's success is that they have penises and they milk it for all its worth
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

^lol?
I think part of her success is a fact that she has a vagina and she milked it with whole bernie bros campaign and bs talk about glass ceiling

sure just like part of every male's politician's success is that they have penises and they milk it for all its worth

you're quick to forget smear campaign agianst sanders and his supporters and false accusations of misogyny by clinton campaign
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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

He hasn't taken Fortune 100 money = good.

He bilked the desperate and the gullible with an unchartered "university" = so much worse.

I just realized the sarcasm in this post. Whoosh. My bad
Edited by indesertum - 9/12/16 at 9:23pm
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