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post #151 of 183
If I was a serial killer, I would wear chukkas with rubber soles.
post #152 of 183
I'm a bit late to the party here, but it's an interesting thread. I don't dislike wholecuts on others but just don't have much use for them myself. Punch cap oxfords I have and wear. I have plain toe oxfords for black tie. I have loafers, derbys and monks. All of these shoes serve a specific purpose. Then I look at a wholecut and think, "where would I wear this that I wouldn't like something else as much or more" and I can't think of a single example. Wholecuts aren't the only shoe I feel this way about, but they are the one this thread is about. I think a plain toe oxford is better for black tie, a punch cap or stitch cap oxford is better with a suit and monks / derbys / loafers are better with odd jackets.
post #153 of 183
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Originally Posted by Zapasman View Post

Serial killers wear running shoes.

I prefer no shoes at all. Blood is a killer on antiquing. Otherwise, I love wholecuts.
post #154 of 183
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Originally Posted by lasbar View Post

If I was a serial killer, I would wear chukkas with rubber soles.

Now I understand why @spectre started this thread about wearing suits with desert boots...
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post #156 of 183
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Originally Posted by clotheshorse69 View Post

I, too, remember when they were pretty hot here. The meta at SF does change though, whether it be on the SW&D or CM side. Long story short, whole cut shoes aren't considered classic, nor have they ever been, although they are the most beautiful shoes I have ever seen (especially the ones with elongated toes). There was a good point in the other thread the OP referred to: when you think about it, one-piece or minimal pieced boots seem to fit the theme best (of course, nothing at all wrong with shoes though).

Off topic: OP, if you wish to joke or use sarcasm on the Internet, you should use emojis in your message

Which shoes styles are considered classic?
post #157 of 183
I actually prefer a wholecut with brogueing. I know those get even more hate apparently but with a sleek last they look nice. Thoughts?
post #158 of 183
Wholecuts generally aren't classically formal, but that wasn't the OPs question.

Acceptability not only depends on the actual look of the shoe, but also the social acceptance of fashion rule "disobedience". They are certainly fashion forward, so If you are going to do them do them right. Cap toes control and isolate leather folds and wrinkles. They help keep the last shape together and are, as many have already pointed out, much easier to successfully execute for a maker. Cheap shitty leather wholecuts almost instantly loose shape and turn into blobs of shit.

In the current "fashion" era of men's tight jeans and overly snug suits, a blake stiched wholecut nicely completes the look.
So leave your double sole goodyear captoe oxfords at home, and don a sleak beautiful Wholecut for the weekend!
post #159 of 183
What about a double sole good year wholecut now? I have also seen cheap cap toe and other designs that also loose shape and turn into blobs. I don't understand what you are trying to imply here.
post #160 of 183
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Originally Posted by AndrzejJopek View Post
 

 

Here is my collection that i got from Nick.

It takes a little while to come to appreciate wholecut shoes and if you are on the edge, you have to take the plunge and buy a pair.

I find wholcuts to be more comfortable. 

The only downside is that they do tend to show creases more than others, but these go away with some Saphir Mink Oil.

 

I have a slim foot taking a std UK9 (GG, C&J) but do find that the TG73 is slightly tighter in the toe box requiring a more breaking in.

 

The St James TG73 took a few good weeks on/off to break in. Now they are very good.

The Grant Rioja are TG73 and took a few wears.

The Chestnut Sinatra TG73 were ordered with a "little extra toe room" and they fit very well out of the box without any need to break in. 

The Uppingham II Midnight Blue is  MH71 is an absolute totally perfect fit. 

 

All my future shoes will be MH71.

 

Gorgeous

post #161 of 183
What do you guys think of wholecut medallions on a sleek last?
post #162 of 183
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Originally Posted by clarksdb View Post

What do you guys think of wholecut medallions on a sleek last?

that's exactly what I would want to have, wholecut without medallions actually looks weird to me
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post #164 of 183
im waffling over putting in an order for mto whlolecuts this weekend. with medallion, without, or at all.

always considered a pair. they look great in isolation (tho very sensitive to the correct last)..... but when looking down on my chelsea boots they look too plain... too nude... like slippers. thats where the medallions come in. adds a bit of visual interest and also balance against creasing.


just talking to myself here.
post #165 of 183
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Originally Posted by Trompe le Monde View Post

im waffling over putting in an order for mto whlolecuts this weekend. with medallion, without, or at all.

always considered a pair. they look great in isolation (tho very sensitive to the correct last)..... but when looking down on my chelsea boots they look too plain... too nude... like slippers. thats where the medallions come in. adds a bit of visual interest and also balance against creasing.


just talking to myself here.

Yes for medallion on a wholecut.
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