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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

I like Jeb. Rubio seems good too. Solid fiscal credentials and at least trying to get a bit of that key center vote

IMO it's a fallacy to assume that a true conservative can't win the independent vote. In an election, being unsure of your principles and trying to play both sides of the fence is probably more detrimental than being pure and effectively communicating that conservatism is what's best for the country, with the possible exception of one or two social issues.

Jeb and Rubio are at the very bottom of my list.
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IMO it's a fallacy to assume that a true conservative can't win the independent vote. In an election, being unsure of your principles and trying to play both sides of the fence is probably more detrimental than being pure and effectively communicating that conservatism is what's best for the country, with the possible exception of one or two social issues.

Jeb and Rubio are at the very bottom of my list.

This is something I hear from conservative commentators all the time, but I'm not sure it is true. Let's look at the last three Presidents.

Obama certainly pandered to the middle and was wishy-washy (or intentionally presented his positions as more moderate). He was publicly against gay marriage as an example.

Bush was certainly moderate - he was no fiscal conservative, and outside of Obamacare and the New Deal, he expanded entitlements more than any other President.

Clinton again campaigned as a moderate, and for the most part he was. He did drop things like Hillary-care before the re-election campaign.

Maybe a principled conservative can win, but it doesn't seem like principled candidates ever win.
post #543 of 1000
I don't think we have a functioning country, so I may switch my vote from Ted Cruz to Bernie Sanders just to hurry things along.

The Ponzi scheme needs time to collapse, we have to allow some time for the four-way race war cage match, and we have to fight over where to bury the bodies.
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I'm just happy Kamerad Polosi isn't running...yikes
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

This is something I hear from conservative commentators all the time, but I'm not sure it is true. Let's look at the last three Presidents.

It's both. You hear Karl Rove and others always raving about the independent vote and winning it through a dilution of conservatism, and you also hear people like Laura Ingraham say that a true conservatism is what's needed.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Obama certainly pandered to the middle and was wishy-washy (or intentionally presented his positions as more moderate). He was publicly against gay marriage as an example.

I believe any liberal would have won that election. After the Iraq war and the financial collapse, it didn't matter who the Republicans ran.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Bush was certainly moderate - he was no fiscal conservative, and outside of Obamacare and the New Deal, he expanded entitlements more than any other President.

Clinton again campaigned as a moderate, and for the most part he was. He did drop things like Hillary-care before the re-election campaign.

Maybe a principled conservative can win, but it doesn't seem like principled candidates ever win.

I don't think it's possible for any candidate to run as a moderate today because the media is going to call them far right regardless, and perception will win. Any republican candidate that would be moderate enough to be treated fairly by the media would be way left of Jeb or Rubio.
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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

I like Jeb. Rubio seems good too. Solid fiscal credentials
Lol.

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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

I'm just happy Kamerad Polosi isn't running...yikes
I assume you mean Pelosi.

That said, please continue talking out of your ass.
post #547 of 1000
Yep, her. The undead California commie broad.
Thank you for the spell check tho. I'm pretty sure everyone was completely lost on that one. wink.gif
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Much as I suspected. Liberals are face shaming Cruz.
post #550 of 1000
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Much as I suspected. Liberals are face shaming Cruz.

Yup. One person = All liberals. Atta boy Piob.

post #551 of 1000

This reminds me of the recent study on Resting Bitch Face.


Punchable Face Derby:



vs

post #552 of 1000
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

Yup. One person = All liberals. Atta boy Piob.

It starts with one...

Also, I was probably just wise cracking as Cruz is imminently punchable.
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Thread Starter 

This isn't face shaming. It's just someone pointing out something we all have known but not why.

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Originally Posted by ethanm View Post

This isn't face shaming. It's just someone pointing out something we all have known but not why.

All faces should be treated as equal. I think we need a "Punchable Face Ken" doll.
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This isn't face shaming. It's just someone pointing out something we all have known but not why.

This does help explain why I find Cruz's face so off-putting.
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