Originally Posted by ethanm
What the fuck is wrong with you? Aren't you a vet? What kind of pog bullshit did you do that makes you think war is an option for this country? Do you understand anything about the deception that led to the occupation and bungling of Iraq?
Fuck me. Let's just allow people to make the same mistakes over and over again. What are the lives of a few thousand kids, anyway?
Its funny because I'm more anti-war than you. I don't want to be bombing people in Iran or Syria or anywhere else. I support bases in places like South Korea and Germany and so on because they are our allies, so I'm not completely Ron Paul-esque. It isn't because I have had friends come home in flag-draped coffins or who were never the same after. It isn't because of similar stories or the statistics though. In the end, we all volunteered. I oppose these things because I don't believe the US has a legitimate national safety concern, and I believe the only proper military use is for national security concerns (which helping allies can be a reason because we may need them one day).
I don't think we should be in the Middle East with the exception of limited defense and support of our allies - not for offensive drone strikes or deploying soldiers. If there is proof there is an imminent danger to the United States that can be prevented by attacking someone in another country, I support that.
However, Pio is right, this whole thing is a red herring for you. If you think Hillary or anyone else running is somehow going to be any less war-making than those running on the right, you're blinded by your partisanship. Obama ran hard on things like closing Gitmo and getting us out of the Middle East, yet we have not only continued operations, we have started new ones and renegotiated treaties to remove our people from places like Afghanistan to get our people there longer.
I also detest the use of soldiers as political pawns again by using their memories to be used to serve a political agenda.Edited by brokencycle - 6/13/15 at 12:21am