Hip-hop culture hurting NFL - Page 8

Thanks for clarifying. Though I wouldn't label traditional blues (say, the 20's - 50's) as being misogynistic as much as playfully (though unrepentanty) chauvanistic. EDIT: hadn't read the lyrics you posted before, since I assumed you were quoting previous posters -- they're not typical of blues I've heard, but I'm no expert on the subject.

nice lyrics edward. here are some more wholesome innocent lyrics from our friend Johnny Cash: shooting a man just to watch him die is pretty gangsta.

If Fiddy ran into John Lee Hooker in a dark alley he'd probably shit himself.

Well, context counts, no? Cash's narrator acknowledges deviating from what he was taught as a child, and finds himself incarcerated and rueful. It's not exactly "my moms don' know shizat -- I'm the baddest muddafugga up in here, yo"

See "Murder Ballads". Some modern examples. Tom Dooley Pretty Polly Hey Joe Mack The Knife Stagger Lee Quite a few murder ballads date from well before the 1900's, as popular folk songs about killing unfaithful women, cheating men, gamblers, or strangers. Often they are sympathetic to the killer.\\ I leave you with this one final nugget. Name the band! Oh yeah... The Beatles were HARDCORE!

nice ones, slim! don't forget the plethora of marijuana tribute songs from the 1920's on.

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I'm not certainly not an expert either, so I don't know whether are not they're characteristic. Both songs are quite early in the history of the blues, though.

man, most early blues is about fucking, satan, or murder. most people can't tell because they hide the meaning behind metaphor and slang. i love people who claim that blues and jazz are wholesome music as opposed to rap. jazz is a form of the word, "jizz," as in "ejaculate." "jazz" or "jaz" meant, "the shit" back in the day. so, "jazz music" was the hot music of the time. early jazz is full of sex and drugs. and the old blues and jazz performers were just as gangsta as any of the hip hop cats today. if you don't believe me, read miles davis's autobiography, or better yet, have a drink with one of the surviving jazz greats, if you are lucky enough. you will be suprised how hard these cats are. every generation has nay-sayers who lambast the music of the youth, who have nothing more to do than to criticize and to belittle true creativity.

i think most people would shit themselves if they ever met the "boogie man" in a dark alley. i wouldn't want to run into leadbelly either.

Listening to Raekwon in this thread.

Nah. Whatever else you wanna say about the man, 50 is hardcore. Cat got shot 9 times from like a foot away, then drove himself to the hospital. You have to respect somebody that tough.

O, I see you've learned something since our chat in another thread.

Good.

Not even lolcats can save this thread. You guys are all diseased.

Tell me something I don't know.