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post #46 of 61
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Originally Posted by yahamshari View Post
Hello,

I just joined Style Forum after Googling for information about Salvatore Ferragamo men's shoes. I need your help.

Allow me to share a bit about my background. I live in Charlotte, NC. I am an investment banker with a classic style of clothing. I wear mainly shades of Gray and Navy Blue European-style tappered Hugo Boss suites without a tie everyday to the office and like good quality shoes. 90% of my shoes are Ferragamo Size 8.5EE. I prefer calf leather lace up dress shoes either cap toe/Oxford/Wingtip or split toe. Basically, I enjoyed looking at all the pictures of the shoes posted earlier on this thread. They are all my style. For years, I have been ordering shoes from the Ferragamo store in Manhattan. The last pair I bought was a brown pair of Fiorenzo. I believe I paid $650.00 for the pair which is a lot since I am not one of those investment bankers or hedge funds managers who make a million dollar a year in bonuses. I am one of those banker in the list of employees who gets laid off everytime a bank (Wachovia Securities/Bank of America) decides to chop some of their employees' heads in order to make the company leaner and score bigger bonuses for the headhunchos. I just got laid off back in November for the second time in my 15 years in the capital markets arena. The good news is I just got an offer thank God! I want to treat myself to a new pair of Black lace up classic looking dress shoes for work. I always look forward to wearing my brown Fiorenzo pair of shoes with Gray and Navy Blue suites. However, I miss wearing Black shoes and need a new pair. The Fiorenzo embodies the look I love.

To get to the point, I just called the Ferragamo store in Manhattan and was told that the Fiorenzo have been replaced by the RARO Style #4658 at $750.00. That is way too high. I definitely cannot afford to pay that much for a pair of shoes. I checked Neiman Marcus', Saks', Macy's, Nordstorm's, and eBay's sites but did not find the shoe. I even called the outlet store in Cabazon, CA but was told that such a shoe is so popular that they never get it in their store. Can anyone on this forum offer an advice?

Thanks.

Welcome aboard. Just to be clear, are you looking for help in finding discounted Tramezzas, or in identifying other more affordable brands that are well-made and might appeal to your aesthetic preferences?
post #47 of 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by yahamshari View Post
Hello,

I just joined Style Forum after Googling for information about Salvatore Ferragamo men's shoes. I need your help.

Allow me to share a bit about my background. I live in Charlotte, NC. I am an investment banker with a classic style of clothing. I wear mainly shades of Gray and Navy Blue European-style tappered Hugo Boss suites without a tie everyday to the office and like good quality shoes. 90% of my shoes are Ferragamo Size 8.5EE. I prefer calf leather lace up dress shoes either cap toe/Oxford/Wingtip or split toe. Basically, I enjoyed looking at all the pictures of the shoes posted earlier on this thread. They are all my style. For years, I have been ordering shoes from the Ferragamo store in Manhattan. The last pair I bought was a brown pair of Fiorenzo. I believe I paid $650.00 for the pair which is a lot since I am not one of those investment bankers or hedge funds managers who make a million dollar a year in bonuses. I am one of those banker in the list of employees who gets laid off everytime a bank (Wachovia Securities/Bank of America) decides to chop some of their employees' heads in order to make the company leaner and score bigger bonuses for the headhunchos. I just got laid off back in November for the second time in my 15 years in the capital markets arena. The good news is I just got an offer thank God! I want to treat myself to a new pair of Black lace up classic looking dress shoes for work. I always look forward to wearing my brown Fiorenzo pair of shoes with Gray and Navy Blue suites. However, I miss wearing Black shoes and need a new pair. The Fiorenzo embodies the look I love.

To get to the point, I just called the Ferragamo store in Manhattan and was told that the Fiorenzo have been replaced by the RARO Style #4658 at $750.00. That is way too high. I definitely cannot afford to pay that much for a pair of shoes. I checked Neiman Marcus', Saks', Macy's, Nordstorm's, and eBay's sites but did not find the shoe. I even called the outlet store in Cabazon, CA but was told that such a shoe is so popular that they never get it in their store. Can anyone on this forum offer an advice?

Thanks.

Call this Ferragamo outlet store (@Chicago Premium Outlet mall). They had some last Saturday and they do ship. Phone number is 630-236 9720.
post #48 of 61
I'm new to the forum, and I've learned a lot in the past few weeks while hanging out and observing. Since I have a question about Tramezzas, I figure now would be a good time to jump in.

Basically, I found a pair of black wingtip Tramezzas in a thrift store the other day for $40. They fit well, and although I was not sure I liked the styling (more on that in a minute), I picked them up.

I've tried to find photos online of any Tramezza shoe that looks even remotely like this one, which, frankly, is a little ugly. The shoe has a square toe, and displays none of the elegant lines that I see in other Tramezza pictures (the Filosopho, etc.), and I notice that even the heel is quite squared off. This is where pics would be handy, and I'll work on that later when I get home. Meanwhile, the broguing seems quite boring, and the shoes also have metal shoe-lace holes. Is this really a Tramezza?

The shoe is heavy, appears solid and well-made, and has the Tramezza stamp on the sole that I recognize as part of the Tramezza line. On another thread I read that Farragamo was making to order at one point a few years ago, so my best guess is that this is either a fake, or a poorly designed MTO shoe. I know it's tough w/out pics, but does an explanation jump to anyone's mind? I don't think I can wear this square shoe.
post #49 of 61
It's most likely a older model, the last shapes have become more elegant through the years.
post #50 of 61
Tramezzas look good, have a good last, and are durable in my experience.
post #51 of 61
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Originally Posted by toddchapman View Post
I'm new to the forum, and I've learned a lot in the past few weeks while hanging out and observing. Since I have a question about Tramezzas, I figure now would be a good time to jump in.

Basically, I found a pair of black wingtip Tramezzas in a thrift store the other day for $40. They fit well, and although I was not sure I liked the styling (more on that in a minute), I picked them up.

I've tried to find photos online of any Tramezza shoe that looks even remotely like this one, which, frankly, is a little ugly. The shoe has a square toe, and displays none of the elegant lines that I see in other Tramezza pictures (the Filosopho, etc.), and I notice that even the heel is quite squared off. This is where pics would be handy, and I'll work on that later when I get home. Meanwhile, the broguing seems quite boring, and the shoes also have metal shoe-lace holes. Is this really a Tramezza?

The shoe is heavy, appears solid and well-made, and has the Tramezza stamp on the sole that I recognize as part of the Tramezza line. On another thread I read that Farragamo was making to order at one point a few years ago, so my best guess is that this is either a fake, or a poorly designed MTO shoe. I know it's tough w/out pics, but does an explanation jump to anyone's mind? I don't think I can wear this square shoe.

Why would you pay 40 bones for a used shoe you thought were ugly??
post #52 of 61
My girlfriend likes them And...the shoes are in great condition. When I tried them on, I of course noticed the squarish toe, but I still liked them well enough to wear on the occasional night out. It's only when I started looking at them up close to describe them for the forum that I started thinking I couldn't wear them. Now that they're back on my feet, they look much better. I have enough decent shoes that I didn't buy them just because they said "Tramezza" on them.
post #53 of 61
Thank you Mr Monty and Lawyer dad for your replies. I just happened to longin to this website to search for threads about a different article but noticed your messages. To answer your question lawyer dad, I have been very satisfied with all my Ferragamo shoes, whether it is the Tramezza, the Originals or even the Studio selection I own. None have fell/came apart. They all look good and are very comfortable so long as they are size 8.5EE. I would love to have a monkstrap or lace up shoe. I am no longer set on Black, it can be a Brown pair. Not to sound anal here, but the shoes I like to wear has to compliment the investment banker/Wall Street look. I am sure you guys know what I am referring to (cap toe/wingtip/single leather piece/split toe). By the way and no offense to any other member, but I am not interested in used shoes and I prefer shoes with long lasts and a little narrow tip not the square or perfectly round styles.

P.S. Mr Monty, I will call the outlet store in Chicago tomorrow. Thanks again.

I really like this website!
post #54 of 61
I went to Nordstrom the other day to try out the RARO which is now at $790 instead of $750. I have the Fiorenzo already in 9.5D and it seems that the 9D is too narrow so my only choice was the 9.5D as 9EE wasn't even available to order. As far as the RARO goes, it seems the next size up is the 10.5D and none of their stores seems to carry the EE width which I think is the next thing up from D as far as Ferragamo goes. So for anything other than D width, it seems like it requires special ordering from Ferragamo and either it comes from the US wherehouse or it will come from Italy. Never knew that the supply was that low. I was told that Tremezza shoes usually will still be a current style and sold for 4 years?
post #55 of 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by toddchapman View Post
I'm new to the forum, and I've learned a lot in the past few weeks while hanging out and observing. Since I have a question about Tramezzas, I figure now would be a good time to jump in.

Basically, I found a pair of black wingtip Tramezzas in a thrift store the other day for $40. They fit well, and although I was not sure I liked the styling (more on that in a minute), I picked them up.

I've tried to find photos online of any Tramezza shoe that looks even remotely like this one, which, frankly, is a little ugly. The shoe has a square toe, and displays none of the elegant lines that I see in other Tramezza pictures (the Filosopho, etc.), and I notice that even the heel is quite squared off. This is where pics would be handy, and I'll work on that later when I get home. Meanwhile, the broguing seems quite boring, and the shoes also have metal shoe-lace holes. Is this really a Tramezza?

The shoe is heavy, appears solid and well-made, and has the Tramezza stamp on the sole that I recognize as part of the Tramezza line. On another thread I read that Farragamo was making to order at one point a few years ago, so my best guess is that this is either a fake, or a poorly designed MTO shoe. I know it's tough w/out pics, but does an explanation jump to anyone's mind? I don't think I can wear this square shoe.

post a pic
post #56 of 61
Mr Monty,

I took your advice and called the Ferragamo outlet store at Chicago Premium Outlet Mall. With the knowledgeable help of Barbara (sales supervisor) there, I purchased my second pair of Brown Fiorenzo. Difference is, I paid $650 for the pair I purchased last year from the Manhattan store. The pair I purchased today over the phone from the outlet store in Chicago was reduced to $175 plus $15 S&H! Before I bought it, I went downstairs to a man who has been polishing shoes and dyeing shoes for the past 40 years. Everyone from our bank's CEO to all the professional athletes get their shoes polished there. Anyhow, Mr. Grady assured me that he can dye Black my new pair of Fiorenzo for $15 and I would not be able to tell that the original color was Brown. I believe him because I have seen him do this type of work before.

Gentleman - give Barbara a call at (630) 236 9720. Please mention that Ed from NC referred you. She was very knowledgeable and helpful. If she does not have your size, she will contact the other six outlets store on your behalf and will even go a step further and e-mail you photos of the shoes they have in stock. You can also contact Fatima (sales supervisor) at the Orlando outlet store at (407) 477-0091.

I really like this website!
post #57 of 61
This would make a great "Before & After" - Please post some pics!
post #58 of 61
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Originally Posted by yahamshari View Post
Mr Monty,

I took your advice and called the Ferragamo outlet store at Chicago Premium Outlet Mall. With the knowledgeable help of Barbara (sales supervisor) there, I purchased my second pair of Brown Fiorenzo. Difference is, I paid $650 for the pair I purchased last year from the Manhattan store. The pair I purchased today over the phone from the outlet store in Chicago was reduced to $175 plus $15 S&H! Before I bought it, I went downstairs to a man who has been polishing shoes and dyeing shoes for the past 40 years. Everyone from our bank's CEO to all the professional athletes get their shoes polished there. Anyhow, Mr. Grady assured me that he can dye Black my new pair of Fiorenzo for $15 and I would not be able to tell that the original color was Brown. I believe him because I have seen him do this type of work before.

Gentleman - give Barbara a call at (630) 236 9720. Please mention that Ed from NC referred you. She was very knowledgeable and helpful. If she does not have your size, she will contact the other six outlets store on your behalf and will even go a step further and e-mail you photos of the shoes they have in stock. You can also contact Fatima (sales supervisor) at the Orlando outlet store at (407) 477-0091.

I really like this website!

$175 for Fiorenzos is a great price! I'm surprised the prices for that shoe are there.
post #59 of 61
I haven't seen the shoe in person but how profound is that square toe? It's not too ridiculous is it? and how does it fit? Very nice job by the way on the price!
Quote:
Originally Posted by yahamshari View Post
Mr Monty, I took your advice and called the Ferragamo outlet store at Chicago Premium Outlet Mall. With the knowledgeable help of Barbara (sales supervisor) there, I purchased my second pair of Brown Fiorenzo. Difference is, I paid $650 for the pair I purchased last year from the Manhattan store. The pair I purchased today over the phone from the outlet store in Chicago was reduced to $175 plus $15 S&H! Before I bought it, I went downstairs to a man who has been polishing shoes and dyeing shoes for the past 40 years. Everyone from our bank's CEO to all the professional athletes get their shoes polished there. Anyhow, Mr. Grady assured me that he can dye Black my new pair of Fiorenzo for $15 and I would not be able to tell that the original color was Brown. I believe him because I have seen him do this type of work before. Gentleman - give Barbara a call at (630) 236 9720. Please mention that Ed from NC referred you. She was very knowledgeable and helpful. If she does not have your size, she will contact the other six outlets store on your behalf and will even go a step further and e-mail you photos of the shoes they have in stock. You can also contact Fatima (sales supervisor) at the Orlando outlet store at (407) 477-0091. I really like this website!
post #60 of 61
Fellow members,

Please disregard my previous posting about the Tremezza Fiorenzo on sale for $175.00. My experience turned out to be a waste of time and brought the worst migraine I have felt in a long time.

Basically what happened was I received last night an e-mail from the Ferragamo outlet store in Chicago advising that the "charge" did not go thru because of a discrepancy in the numerical part of my address. So, I called the store first thing this morning to confirm for the third time, yes, for the third time, my billing/delivery address (the address I have lived at for over two years). Still, the store's credit card charging system rejected the numerical part of my physical street address. So, I contacted my credit card company and confirmed the address they have on file for me. I called back the associate at the Chicago outlet store and asked her to type my credit card information. I also asked the associate if she could give me an idea how much the total would be: I said to her: "$175 plus $15 S&H should bring the total to around $190." The associate replied that the Fiorenzo shoes were listed for $420. I replied that she must have made a mistake because the sales supervisor said to me the day before: "I highly recommend that you buy a second pair of Brown Fiorenzo since we have them marked all the way down to $175 so we can move the collection through for the new shipment of shoes we will be receiving directly from the warehouse and the full-retail boutique next week."

See, as I mentioned in my previous posting, I figured the day before why not! Might as well buy a second pair for $175 plus $15 S&H plus $15 dyeing plus $24 rubber Vibrant sole plus $3 for front and rear taps. Still a heck of a deal compared to the $650 I paid for the first Brown pair I purchased from the Manhattan store in early 2007.

The sales associate apologized and stated that the sales supervisor confused the Fiorenzo price with the price of the Filosofo (a beautiful monkstrap Tremezza I remembered from Ferragamo's 2004 collection). I said to the associate that this changes everything and I am not sure yet whether I want to pay $420 for a discontinued model (Fiorenzo). I am so glad the charge did not go thru the day before. I can just imagine the look on my face had I received my credit card bill at the end of the month and saw a $435 charge.

By that time, over an hour at work talking to this associate and I found myself without a new shoe. I called the associate back and asked her to go ahead and sell me the Filosofo instead. I also figured, $175 is a good price for any elegant Tramezza shoe. The lowest I have seen this shoe on sale was $286 back in 2006 at Neiman Marcus' website. The associate apologized and said: "I am sorry we don't carry the Filosofo." ...!@#$%^&*... The associate said they don't carry this model? Then why would these imbeciles quote me the price of a shoe that they don't carry? Why would they waste over an hour of my time at work? Shouldn't these airheads work at Abercrombie & Fitch or Coyote Ugly instead of Salvatore Ferragamo?

Fellas, do you all think it is still worth it to buy a second pair of Fiorenzo shoes in Brown for $420 and get them dyed Black? What would you do if you were in my shoes?

Thank you in advance for your recommendation.

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