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Another Q for Eason: working out on no sleep, yay or nay?

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Since I've started pursuing a Masters, I've rediscoved the all-nighters of my undergrad days. I'm now up all night once every other week or so, as it's always been the case that I can get more done in one knock-down-drag-out 15 hour study session than 5 well placed 3 hour evenings. Around dawn I usually throw in the towel, take a shower, read the morning's news, make a 5th pot of coffee etc., whatever I need to do to pull myself together for the workday really. I'm thinking maybe it would be better to use that couple hours before work by going to the gym. The Pro would be that it would pump me up some, I'd dig up some energy that had been stagnant as I studied all night, I'd be able to squeeze in the workout I'd almost surely be too tired for at the other end of 8 hours in the office, and it would jump-start my metabolism, giving me the illusion of, you know, being well-rested and energized. I'm wondering, though, if maybe there are some Cons I should be considering. I wouldn't do any serious weight-training, as it's probably unsafe to be lifting max loads while zombified; I imagine I'd just hop on the treadmill or elliptical, do some Core stuff like push-ups & pull-ups and stretces, etc. Would this be unwise for any reason? My basic question is whether or not exercise is less productive if your system is already exhausted?
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Since I've started pursuing a Masters, I've rediscoved the all-nighters of my undergrad days. I'm now up all night once every other week or so, as it's always been the case that I can get more done in one knock-down-drag-out 15 hour study session than 5 well placed 3 hour evenings. Around dawn I usually throw in the towel, take a shower, read the morning's news, make a 5th pot of coffee etc., whatever I need to do to pull myself together for the workday really. I'm thinking maybe it would be better to use that couple hours before work by going to the gym. The Pro would be that it would pump me up some, I'd dig up some energy that had been stagnant as I studied all night, I'd be able to squeeze in the workout I'd almost surely be too tired for at the other end of 8 hours in the office, and it would jump-start my metabolism, giving me the illusion of, you know, being well-rested and energized.

I'm wondering, though, if maybe there are some Cons I should be considering. I wouldn't do any serious weight-training, as it's probably unsafe to be lifting max loads while zombified; I imagine I'd just hop on the treadmill or elliptical, do some Core stuff like push-ups & pull-ups and stretces, etc. Would this be unwise for any reason? My basic question is whether or not exercise is less productive if your system is already exhausted?

Well yes, exercise is less productive if you don't allow your body to repair and rebuild. I recall something about the satellite cells (cells which we believe are responsible for building as well as repairing muscle fibers) being more active during sleep. The thing about a lack of sleep among many other things is that it causes your levels of cortisol, a stress hormone, to rise. This hormone is linked to (fat) weight gain and breakdown of lean mass. The kicker is that exercise stress also leads to a increase in cortisol, which obviously doesn't hurt people who get sleep but I'm not sure what kind of additive effect, if any, it would have over somebody who was sleep deprived. While I would never, ever recommend somebody who is sleep deprived to do any heavy resistance training, the exercises you listed don't sound strenuous at all and safety-wise, I don't think it would cause any problems. You may even feel some energy boost afterwards from the exercise- I'd be interested in knowing if this is the case- but on a basic level, what is going on here is you're taking a worn-out and stressed machine and subjecting it to more wear and stress, it can't be healthy. Since I have no definitive answer, my suggestion I guess is that you try it out for a couple of times. If you feel better from doing the light exercise, then great. If you feel worse, then discontinue it immediately.

Alternatively, you could get a full 8 hours sleep, but I know what the chances of that are .
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Thanks Eason. You are to SF Fitness what Lawyerdad is to SF Girl Troubles and what Artisan Fan is to SF Right-Wing Propaganda and what Drizzt is to SF Wacky News Tidbits.
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Alternatively, you could get a full 8 hours sleep, but I know what the chances of that are .
well yes, in a perfect world for sure. But in a perfect world I also wouldn't be posting on SF at 5a.m. on a Tuesday Boston-time
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Thanks Eason. You are to SF Fitness what Lawyerdad is to SF Girl Troubles and what Artisan Fan is to SF Right-Wing Propaganda and what Drizzt is to SF Wacky News Tidbits.



well yes, in a perfect world for sure. But in a perfect world I also wouldn't be posting on SF at 5a.m. on a Tuesday Boston-time

I guess that beats me by 3 hours... still, what authority does that give me about sleep... At least one of the perks of my job is that I work from 2-9pm, so I can always sleep late, and get to work early and work out.
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I've always heard that excersizing leads to lowered general levels of stress and higher quality sleep, I'm supposed to be writing a 3-5 page paper worth 10% of my final grade in a class right now (due in 4.5 hours) so I won't look for studies, but rather than adding to his problems I think that their is a good chance it may work to aleviate them to a degree.
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I'm supposed to be writing a 3-5 page paper worth 10% of my final grade in a class right now (due in 4.5 hours)

so why are you on StyleForum? You should be eiter typing furiously or running a Tour de Stade.
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I'd go with no, just on the basis that if you're exhausted before you work out, what are the odds you're going to be able to make it through the day after you've expended the very little bit of energy you had left? Plus, what do you think the quality of your workout will be like? I'd venture it would be fairly crappy, although I don't know if you'll have a coffee enema hooked up or not
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Just make sure you're eating through the night. I don't know the positive/negatives of what you're proposing, but going in without food energy would seem like a bad idea to me. If anything you're just training yourself for a hell night if you go into the military Maybe try jumping rope too and let us know how it goes!
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I trained for my first marathon during my first semester of b-school. It was tough, but I got through and finished both successfully. I can say that running has been helpful in getting me up for another day - both in getting the heart pumping, and in clearing the mind. Not that I'd make a habit of repeating this more than two nights in a row, but for those 4-hour-sleep nights (hello Overtaining...), I always feel better when I run for at least 30 minutes. Good luck!
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