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post #16 of 26
Man, it must suck being President then.
post #17 of 26
So does that mean you would change your vote if the candidate with whom you agreed on the issues dressed in Kiton and T&A? Or would you just be disappointed with your candidate?
post #18 of 26
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I expect my President to wear ONLY USA made clothing. Not T&A shirts, Kiton suits or the like.
Why? By wearing non-USA-made clothing, he shows the power of free and open markets, that we have the freedom to choose what we want from around the world to increase our quality of life. Limiting ourselves to only American made goods puts an artificial constraint on the quality of our lives (seen the cheap plastic knobs and poor ergonomics of American union-made automobile dashboards lately?). If the American made product is truly the best -- like a Boeing 777 airplane is or the Microsoft Excel spreadsheet program is -- and/or yields the best value-to-price ratio, then and only then does it make sense to buy Made in the USA. To buy anything less in a free and open market like the USA is purely a personal choice based on emotion rather than reason.
post #19 of 26
Wearing USA made clothing is not a requirement for my vote, but I expect that a candidate who gives lip-service to the unions for money and votes, should at very least support them. Furthermore, I am not totally against free and open markets, as I have been involved in the clothing business for nearly 30 years, it is one of the first industries that embraced world-wide sourcing of products. I have also witness the complete destruction of good paying apparel manufacturing jobs (union and non-union) as the result of "free trade". Most European makers compete on a nearly level playing field (labor costs, insurance costs, enviromental costs, OSHA, etc.) as the U.S. and as one of Italian Heritage, I prejudicely feel that Italian textiles are superior. It is the countries that have have no enviromental regulation, do not pay fair wages, have terrible working enviroments etc. that concern me. I believe that countries that dump goods on the US that do not have the same or similiar regulation as US businesses should pay a tariff that is equal to what their costs would be if they were located in the US. Competition is great, but only if it is fair competion.
post #20 of 26
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Wearing USA made clothing is not a requirement for my vote, ... Competition is great, but only if it is fair competion.
Which is it? Earlier you said absolutely "I expect my President to wear ONLY USA made clothing." There will never be "fair" competition so don't hold your breath as the world passes on by. The USA is so far more advanced than many other countries in so many ways (technology, income per capita, productivity, etc.) that all those other countries will likely never agree with you on what is "fair" to begin with. In reality, it's an undefinable and meaningless term. America simply doesn't have a comparative advantage in labor-intensive industries like textile manufacturing because its labor costs are too high compared to other countries who have billions of low-skilled people clamoring for work (India, China, etc.); as such, except for niche segments of the market in which the USA has an advantage, it's probably not an industry in which America should be competing anymore. Kind of like television sets and other consumer electronics.
post #21 of 26
Hey, I'm not Kerry and flip-flopping.......LOL What I said was I expect the President to wear ONLY USA made clothing, I didn't say it was a requirement for my vote. Two different things. Do you work for CBS?...LOL I do not want to lower the United State's standard of living just so other countries can catch up.....
post #22 of 26
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What I said was I expect the President to wear ONLY USA made clothing, I didn't say it was a requirement for my vote.
That's not an unresonable request. It's along the same lines as the royal family in Brittain wearing only British made clothing. It shouldn't be mandatory, however it would be patriotic. George W, wore Oxxford for his inauguration.
post #23 of 26
yes, but doesnt GWB wear Lattanzi shoes?
post #24 of 26
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Hey, I'm not Kerry and flip-flopping.......LOL What I said was I expect the President to wear ONLY USA made clothing, I didn't say it was a requirement for my vote. Two different things. Do you work for CBS?...LOL I do not want to lower the United State's standard of living just so other countries can catch up.....
Sorry but your statements still didn't add up. And I hope you don't expect Faux News to be fair and balanced either. Also, did you complain about fair competition during the 1950s-1980s when Italian clothing / textile industry was in similar stage to current Asian countries (cheap labours, loose occupational standards, etc)? How about firms like Vass, want to slap even heftier tariff on them until their prices are equal to Lattanzi?
post #25 of 26
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LA Guy: No deals here regardless of your political views.....LOL I know Southwick does MTM as they are my CTM house of my Leighton Collection of traditional clothing. I spoke to them about this and they deny that that is their jacket. I didn't mean to put my political views out there, but I expect my President to wear ONLY USA made clothing. Not T&A shirts, Kiton suits or the like. In my state (West Virginia), which is heavily unionized, Bush is carrying the union rank & file vote because they see through Kerry's hypocrisy. Enough political crap now, let's talk about more important issues such as fine tailored clothing. Well as my father always said "DNR" stands for "Do Not Read".....LMAO
Can anyone tell me when the picture in question was taken? If this was the suit that he wore for his acceptance speech in Boston, then you're absolutely correct: Southwick did _not_ make this suit; rather, it was made by Rizzo & Co in Cambridge, MA.
post #26 of 26
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Rizzo & Co in Cambridge, MA.
And a truly democratic little shop, that. I've seen the proprietor accord the same amount of respect given senators, presidents of universities and captains of industry to impoverished students looking for ultra-cheap formalwear (recommended that they go to Keezers, and bring the product back to be tailored to best effect), and some guy looking for alterations to a beige Lauren Ralph Lauren suit (my question for the guy: why bother?) A real prince of a man.
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