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post #16 of 39
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Originally Posted by lasbar View Post
The English scene has evolved since i did come to England in 1997....
I do remember looking around Canterbury and Bluewater (a massive shopping mall) a few years ago for a decent pair of navy or burgundy shoes and only finding black /brown shoes on offer...

Now ,London is full of tan ,burgundy ,dark brown,mid-brown,navy and other colours under the sun...
The continental influence is slowly and surely pushing out the all black brigade ...
People want personal shoes with a twist and colour are exploding everywhere...

The brown is for farmers is also redundant except for the older generations...
With JM WESTON,Berluti,Lobb and so many Italian shoe makers present in England ,the younger Profesional crowd is slowly pushing the boundaries of the fashion etiquette...

The tan fad is receeding and thanks God for that....
Since when has Lobb been Italian?
post #17 of 39
Lobb is mainly French owned (Hermes) ,except the John Lobb ghastly museum in London...

The influence of shoe designers is actually more complex than the simple nationality....
John Lobb had his first shop in paris despite his nationality...

On the subject on inspiration, the web is complex....
The Italians were inspired by the English and the French , the current French designers have hybrid inspirations from Italy and England and so on and the British house names such as C&J have a French guy,Dimitri Gomez,as head bespoke maker...

If you study the history of fashion and shoe making ,the shoe shapes are rarely inspired by one country...
post #18 of 39
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Originally Posted by lasbar View Post
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If you study the history of fashion and shoe making ,the shoe shapes are rarely inspired by one country...

The United States, of course.





















Apparently, the earliest known shoes were found in California.
post #19 of 39
The Brits expect black shoes with a gray or blue suit. If you wish to fit in (yawn), then I recommend black. If that's not your concern, check out antique brown calf or even better, brown suede. Many renowned Brits of style have followed this path.
post #20 of 39
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Originally Posted by letmebefell View Post
The British wear black shoes in town - and they avoid the problem of matching brown suits by not wearing them. Navy or grey only, please.

I guess things have changed since January 2007 when I was hanging out in London and looking at all the brown shoes worn by men with suits. My. The next thing I'll know the fucking polar caps will be permanently melted.
post #21 of 39
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lasbar said:
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Lobb is mainly French owned (Hermes) ,except the John Lobb ghastly museum in London...

A true connoiseur of Lobbs will never buy a ready to wear pseudo-Lobbs.
If you want a pair of original bespoke Lobb shoes, here is the place to go:

http://www.johnlobbltd.co.uk/

(This is the original John Lobb, not the Hermes owned version.)
post #22 of 39
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Originally Posted by Britalian View Post
A couple of my favourite combinations.

I wore a pin strip mid grey suit with a pair of vintage teracotta coloured brown brogues shoes. You are right it looked great.
post #23 of 39
The John Lobb London is a museum for antiques and your remark is just showing how little you do know about bespoke shoes....
Their shop is beautiful and is smelling of old England but their bespoke models are the joke of the shoe makers..

They're stuck in a time warp and their lasts are honestly unwearable if you're under 100 years old..
John Lobb used to let them copy their models until 10 years ago without saying anything but now ,the shop is empty and even the English designers are quietly laughing at their models..

When Hermes did buy John Lobb in 1976 ,the London flagship stayed independently run....
It is slowly dying and not of a beautiful death....

Tony Gaziano is becoming the king of London when Gomez ,Delos and John Lobb paris are ruling the other side of the channel...
if you add up Vass and the Austrian shoe makers ,John Lobb St James is at best a tourist curiosity...
post #24 of 39
Thread Starter 
I agree I'm not expert on bespoke shoes. So where do you recommend I buy bespoke shoes then?. Also, the British Royal family has a Royal Warrant in John Lobb and something tells me it's not the Hermès' John Lobb, am I right?.
post #25 of 39
burgundy/oxblood

goes with every color, except a burgundy suit
post #26 of 39
The British Royal family is giving warrants to a lot of companies even the ones they're not actually using at present...
Try to get a list of them and you will be surprised at the readings..

I do not see royal warrants issued on the basis of past history and social networking as a quality benchmark but beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
Are you sure that they're actually making shoes for them?

Even James Bond is wearing ready to wear John Lobb Jermyn Street ...
The list could be very long as British,French ,Spanish and American politicians and A-listers are buying their shoes there...

I'm just giving you some information and you're free not to follow the advice we're giving you...
The best bespoke makers are Tony Gaziano,Suzuki,John LOBB Paris,Dimitri Gomez,
Delos,Vass,Corthay,Saint Crispin and so many others...

If you do really want to buy some royal warranted shoes ,then go to Saint =james and i'm sure that you will enjoy the customer service and their ultra-classic lasts...

John Lobb London ,between you and me ,is a bit of a joke in the bespoke world because their lasts and creations are just dramatically classic without being interesting...
post #27 of 39
^^^ I don't know anything about different bespoke shoemakers, but have found that in almost every trade the smaller and less known makers use the mark of "only for tourists" to denigrate the more established makers in the field. I have heard it applied to A&S, Rubinacci, Charvet, Caraceni Rome and Milan and many of the other best known makers of clothing. Is it true? I really don't know, but my expereince with my eyes is that there is usually a reason that certain makers have been though highly of for a long time. I am not saying you are wrong re Lobb, but it is an argument that holds little water for me. One that works better is "their shoes don't fit well" or "the shoes are uniformly ugly". As for me, I like the shoes I have seen at Lobb more than half of your list and less than half, but that is just me.
post #28 of 39
Lobb St. James is a competent maker but at their price point they are trading off their customer list from their illustrious past.

You can get more attractive looking shoes but without the cachet from the Lobb name. It's not evident to anyone else when one wears cachet.
post #29 of 39
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advice Mr. Lasbar. I think you are right that John Lobb St. James is too old fashioned for us young man. And those Tony Gaziano shoes are great, ..., so maybe I should try John Lobb Paris.
post #30 of 39
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