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Johnston & Murphy - Consensus?

post #1 of 13
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I have read a lot on these boards about various brands of oxfords and wingtips. However, I never have heard anyone mention Johnston&Murphy. I have always been impressed by the look. Always seems to be nice modern take on some classic shoe styles.

What is the impression of the board of the quality of the contruction, materials, etc.?
post #2 of 13
There are far more better brands out there, that's for sure. But I've been wearing a pair of J&M mid-cut boots for more than 2 years on a regular basis and are still in one piece.
post #3 of 13
there are a lot of better stuff out there, but their stuff is one of the more decent ones you find in a mall.
post #4 of 13
J & M Aristocraft line for Japan

( wingtip is cordovan )

post #5 of 13
I have a few pair of split toe J&M that I wear casually. They were made in Italy and look decent enough, and at under $200, were a nice price. However, I have not worn J&M dress shoes simply because I think there are better shoes out there. I agree with the post above about usually being the best of mall fare, but for a couple hundred bucks more, you can usually do much better..
post #6 of 13
There are vintage "handmade" and "handcrafted" J&Ms to be had on ebay that will rival all other current American shoe makers. I've owned handcrafted cap toes that had thicker, softer, better leather than Allen Edmonds and Alden captoes(excepting my Alden Black shell cordovan custom made bal cap) I've owned.
post #7 of 13
I am not a fan. They feel bulky and look cheap up close compared to other brands. I'd rather go with Mezlan for the same price than J&M.
post #8 of 13
For the retail price of J&M, you can easily get a pair of AEs from eBay/Nordstrom Rack and have almost enough money left over for a second pair. With some persistence, you could get two AEs from eBay.

I bought one pair of J&Ms on deep discount ($45-$50), and wouldn't do it again. They've creased pretty visibly even with limited wear. I should just get rid of them -- I had thought I'd use them as rain shoes, but I don't even do that.
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by gnatty8 View Post
but for a couple hundred bucks more, you can usually do much better..

quite true although even around these circles there are many can't/won't spend a couple hundred bucks on shoes, let alone a couple hundred on top of a $200 j&m retail price.

i have a few pairs of j&m which are decent. i'd stay away from anything in their lower lines (retail under $150). dead giveaways for these are squarer toes and often rubber tops over the leather soles. these were obviously designed for a younger, lower-end market.

some of their higher end stuff is decent, especially when you find it on ebay for under $75.
post #10 of 13
Are those Japanese aristocrafts made right now? That's amazing...

Vintage is the way to go for J&M. Anything over 15 years old should be good. I have a pair of Aristocrafts in shell which are great shoes, as good as any AE today. I've seen the handmades on SF but never in person, those are even more stunning.
post #11 of 13
I would rather spend the money on AE's or move a bit up market and get a pair of Alden's.

Jon.
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by imageWIS View Post
I would rather spend the money on AE's or move a bit up market and get a pair of Alden's.

Jon.

post #13 of 13
I am in decent on the Johston & Murhphy shoes. I own 5 pairs, 3 from the Aristocrat line and 2 of the Crown line. I think the Crown's are easily competitive with Aldens. The Aristocrats are over priced but can be purchased at the Haggerstown Outlet store in Maryland for $210.

Becuase the AE's shoes have such an inelegant last with the cap being out of proportion on the Park Ave, and the shoes having such a clunky and blandish look I think the J&M Aristocrats punch cap toes are better looking and make for a better buy than the AE counter parts. I will conceed that the leather on the AE's is slighhtly better.
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