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post #1 of 69
9/19/07 at 3:42pm
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I have recently heard from my trainer that on lifting days I need to consume 1.5 grams of protein for every pound of body weight. I weigh 200lbs, so on lifting days I should be taking in 300 grams of protein? Is this excessive?
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post #2 of 69
9/19/07 at 3:43pm
No. It's a lot, but you weigh a lot. Over 1.5, it's fairly ineffective, and if you go too much higher, there is the possibility of toxicity, but it shouldn't be an issue. 1-1.5g/lb of bodyweight is standard and necessary.
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post #3 of 69
9/19/07 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by flyjordan View Post
I have recently heard from my trainer that on lifting days I need to consume 1.5 grams of protein for every pound of body weight. I weigh 200lbs, so on lifting days I should be taking in 300 grams of protein? Is this excessive?

Protein intake should not change from lifting to non-lifting days. Your intake seems fine.
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post #4 of 69
9/19/07 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by Arethusa View Post
No. It's a lot, but you weigh a lot. Over 1.5, it's fairly ineffective, and if you go too much higher, there is the possibility of toxicity, but it shouldn't be an issue. 1-1.5g/lb of bodyweight is standard and necessary.

have you ever done that? I am curious, I just read an article about it, but don't know anybody who consumes that much protien.
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post #5 of 69
9/19/07 at 3:54pm
Consumed to toxicity or consumed that much protein? Definitely no to the former, but I am currently doing the latter (whey helps a lot, and it's cheap, even for the better stuff from ON).
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post #6 of 69
9/19/07 at 3:57pm
Is this intake supposed to be taken at a single time? Or spaced through out the day? I don't know how much grams of protein I put into my milk..but after 1 1/2 scoops it gets really grainy and hard to swallow..I'i supposed to take 231
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post #7 of 69
9/19/07 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by Arethusa View Post
Consumed to toxicity or consumed that much protein? Definitely no to the former, but I am currently doing the latter (whey helps a lot, and it's cheap, even for the better stuff from ON).

no, consumed 1.5 grams per pound? if so, how were the results?
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post #8 of 69
9/19/07 at 4:02pm
It really doesn't make much of a direct difference, but if you're training, it's necessary for muscle repair and growth. Without it, recovery times will be noticeably longer and muscles grow very slowly. Protein is just a necessary part of your diet, and it's not going to have direct effects like other supplements (creatine, steroids, whatever, which I have not tried; may consider some form of creatine at some point, but not for quite a while).
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post #9 of 69
9/19/07 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by Arethusa View Post
It really doesn't make much of a direct difference, but if you're training, it's necessary for muscle repair and growth. Without it, recovery times will be noticeably longer and muscles grow very slowly. Protein is just a necessary part of your diet, and it's not going to have direct effects like other supplements (creatine, steroids, whatever, which I have not tried; may consider some form of creatine at some point, but not for quite a while).

well, for years the accepted ratio was 1 gram - and some people considered that high. there is a point where you have too much protien - I was just wondering if you had experience at 1.5 grams as opposed to 1 gram, and how it compares?
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post #10 of 69
9/19/07 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post
have you ever done that? I am curious, I just read an article about it, but don't know anybody who consumes that much protien.

A lot of the people on here probably consume that much. I consume anywhere between 1-1.5 times my weight (in pounds) in grams of protein every day. Like Arethusa said, whey protein helps a bit (I probably get at least 50 grams of protein a day from whey protein, sometimes more), but mostly if you focus on eating meat with every meal, it's not too hard to get there. Especially if you're eating somewhere between five and seven meals a day, like most people recommend for those who are weight training/etc.
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post #11 of 69
9/19/07 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by Saucemaster View Post
A lot of the people on here probably consume that much. I consume anywhere between 1-1.5 times my weight (in pounds) in grams of protein every day. Like Arethusa said, whey protein helps a bit (I probably get at least 50 grams of protein a day from whey protein, sometimes more), but mostly if you focus on eating meat with every meal, it's not too hard to get there. Especially if you're eating somewhere between five and seven meals a day, like most people recommend for those who are weight training/etc.

fair enough, thanks
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post #12 of 69
9/19/07 at 4:17pm
I don't think anybody mentioned it, but dietary protein is also good because approximately 20% of your calories from protein are used to convert the protein to carbohydrates, therefore you're not taking in as many calories as you think you are. High protein/satiety diets are thus a great way to facilitate weight loss while training.
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post #13 of 69
9/19/07 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post
fair enough, thanks

FWIW, I vaguely remember reading something that said that as long as you're getting about a gram/pound, you're pretty much doing fine, and that more isn't going to make a huge difference in your results. That's why I don't worry too much about the exact ratio--I just shoot for >1g/lb.
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post #14 of 69
9/19/07 at 4:40pm
I also average between 1-1.5g/lb per day which is somewhat over 300g currently. I normally take ~60g protein shakes in the morning and evening and after my lifting and my normal meals do the rest. I'm currently cutting (yes I know its bulking season but we don't have seasons in CA, remember?) and in deficit by about 7-800 kcal/day (ignoring thermogenic effect) which seems to be pretty effective.
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post #15 of 69
9/19/07 at 4:45pm
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I have heard on non-lifting days 1 gram, and lifting days 1.5 grams. I live in boulder, CO which is pretty health conscious so I assume that this is a safe bet? I dont eat as much on non-lift days, so I dont need as much protein right?
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