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post #3151 of 4449
I don't think you can take the pleats out. It will completely alter the dimensions and the tailor will need to re-cut your pants..
post #3152 of 4449
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That I am. 

 

My wallet is relieved I am not the same size as @RogerP, or I would be bankrupt and possibly divorced from buying all of his kick-ass boots.

 

Has anybody had pleats successfully removed by an alterations tailor?  @TRINI , @Master-Classter 

 

I've tried to do this last year, but I wasn't able to find someone that would do the job. They were the pants from a Brooks Brothers Golden Fleece suit. BB said they wouldn't do it as the results wouldn't be remotely close to expectations. I learned that it is a much tougher job than it seems to us non-tailors. At the end of the day it comes down to fully remaking the pants, which will be expensive regardless of the outcome.

post #3153 of 4449
Yep, I concur. I haven't tried the operation myself but would imagine it's actually quite a bit more complicated than it seems and would alter the fit of the pants. It's in the main area where the shape affects fit. Not like you're hemming or tapering a leg. Don't know if it would work but could try getting the pleats just stitched flat, effectively making them flat front pants. And to be honest, in my earlier SF days, I had things hemmed with no break and all flat front but in recent years have gone back to some break and a single pleat (not double) since I find it makes pants way more comfortable. I think there's such a strong aversion to the double pleated baggy 90's pants that we've tended to err on the side of being a little too slim and even that looks as poorly thought out as the thing we're running from. I have one pair of pants that I loved the fabric and were just too loose on me and had them tailored quite a bit and the result? Well the fabric's still lovely but they never really quite fit right and I know it. Better than average Joe, but not as good as my other pairs. So either iron out part of the pleats, try tacking/stitching them flat, or just embrace and live with it. If you take them in from the outseams or back, the pleats will flair out. If you try to take away the pleats, you have to take off the waistband, take out extra fabric from the sides, right at the pockets, then reattach the pockets, sides, waistband, etc, all without your body being present and then hope it fits you nicely in a prominent/visible area... So I'd say don't do it. Just wear them as is or try something simple like the ironing/tacking above that can be undone etc.
post #3154 of 4449
Same. I've had suits with double pleats in the past and as long as they're not baggy in the upper thigh area, I was able to live with them.
post #3155 of 4449

Removing the pleat is very difficult. To make the pleat in the first place the waist of the panel is cut larger to accommodate the pleat and this is tapered down the leg to the vanishing point of the pleat. Most pleats are 1/2" depth. It may be possible to diminish shallower depths, like 1/4" pleats, but it will still be noticeable. Best thing is to leave the pleat and embrace it.

post #3156 of 4449
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Has anybody had a Toronto alterations tailor take pleats out of pants? My tailor doesn't want to do it, but I have a pair of pants that has two old-timey pleats, and I hate the pleats. Fabric is nice as all hell, though. Gladson.

Xavier can do it.
post #3157 of 4449
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Has anybody had a Toronto alterations tailor take pleats out of pants? My tailor doesn't want to do it, but I have a pair of pants that has two old-timey pleats, and I hate the pleats. Fabric is nice as all hell, though. Gladson.

 

I'd just forget it and move on...  You're savvy enough of a member to know when to "cut your losses".   How did you wind up with this anyways?  Its it a 10 year old suit?  Or a B&S/eBay score you are trying to make work? 

post #3158 of 4449
I think some RL Polo suits still come double-pleated.
post #3159 of 4449
There's nothing wrong with pleats. If done right.

post #3160 of 4449

Nothing wrong with pleats. On contrary, if applied to the right cut of pants (higher rise) they actually drape better, because cloth more naturally "hangs" from one's waist. This has the result of additional "slimming factor", in my experience.

If you are in for more modern. lower rise look, then no pleats.

post #3161 of 4449
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I'd just forget it and move on...  You're savvy enough of a member to know when to "cut your losses".   How did you wind up with this anyways?  Its it a 10 year old suit?  Or a B&S/eBay score you are trying to make work? 
B & S find. Recently made by Kent Wang. Higher rise, and I think they're properly executed. Very nice suit otherwise, but the pleats are just not my preference. If I could even reduce to one pleat, I would like it a lot better. Will likely try Xavier. Either that or just post to the Toronto B&S thread. I need the closet space...


Edit: just saw some replies I missed earlier and I've decided to leave them as is.
Edited by scatterbrain - 4/28/16 at 12:00pm
post #3162 of 4449

Heads up to all.  Barneys NY online is paying duty on orders over $500.  Not a bad deal, lots of nice items online. 

post #3163 of 4449
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Heads up to all.  Barneys NY online is paying duty on orders over $500.  Not a bad deal, lots of nice items online. 


Unfortunately, the 4300$ Cifonelli suits are still out of my budget... 😧
post #3164 of 4449
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the feedback re: pleats. I didn't see several of these posts before,and am now planning on just leaving them.
post #3165 of 4449
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There's nothing wrong with pleats. If done right.

single forward pleat. 3/8" depth  

 

can't be beat IMO.  I won't 1/2" and haven't experimented with 1/4"; but 3/8 has worked so far.  

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