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post #2986 of 4642
those BB shoes are fucking hideous - could care less who makes them.
post #2987 of 4642

@burgerkong in defense of BB shoes, I am quite pleased with my recent cap toe (park avenue) and mine doesn't have a problem with the welting. Quality wise, only time will tell but they feel solid on my feet. 

 

On a side note, I notice LodinG has a great price on its Jodhpur boots. Better price than Meermin's MTO if shipping, duties are considered. Might as well be my reason to try out LodinG :satisfied:

post #2988 of 4642

I also recently bought a pair of Lodings (Roma wholecuts). Without going into the same level of detail as BK, I agree with his assessment of them. I've worn them a handful of times now. First time they were a little stiff, but by the third wear they were breaking in well. The slightly elongated last takes a bit of getting used to for walking if you're more accustomed to AE-type styling - the Romas are even longer than my AE Boston monkstraps (old AE 0 last, which is one of their longer ones I think). The first day I wore them I ended up kicking my toes a little bit.

 

I think the problem with those BB captoes (stylistically, anyway) is the cap is too small in proportion to the rest of the shoe. It should be further back by about another width of the broguing.

 

@burgerkong, where in the US are you getting SL shoes? I'll be interested to read your review of them when you do get some. They were first on my list of wholecuts before Loding, but based on the timing I needed to have a serviceable pair of shoes for, I decided I wasn't willing to take the risk on sizing with shipping from/to France. 

post #2989 of 4642

Great review @burgerkong

I am not a fan of the BB's having seen them previously many times, stylistically not on par with lodings - fit aside. 

I have a pair of Londing single monks and aside from the initial stiffness of the leather, they broke in fairly well. 

post #2990 of 4642
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Originally Posted by burgerkong View Post

 

An update to my budget decent shoe search in TO, got the Brook Brothers by Allen Edmonds Fifth Street and the LodinG Nevisa cap toes in, both hovering around the $400 price tag tax in ...

Quality post. :thumbs-up:

 

The Loading looks a lot more elegant. I think the cap toe on the AE is too short, but is the cap toe on the Loding too long? Do you get creases on the cap when you bend down to tie your shoe?

post #2991 of 4642

I picked up a pair of Loding captoes a few months back and continue to fight with them. For a while I was keeping them at my office and changing into them there for light wear hoping that'd break them in without too much pain.. but these guys are stiff. Easily the longest break-in of any pair of shoes I've owned. I'll update my post if things change, but as of now, I'm regretting the purchase.

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Originally Posted by RaggedyDandy View Post
 

I also recently bought a pair of Lodings (Roma wholecuts). Without going into the same level of detail as BK, I agree with his assessment of them. I've worn them a handful of times now. First time they were a little stiff, but by the third wear they were breaking in well. The slightly elongated last takes a bit of getting used to for walking if you're more accustomed to AE-type styling - the Romas are even longer than my AE Boston monkstraps (old AE 0 last, which is one of their longer ones I think). The first day I wore them I ended up kicking my toes a little bit.

 

I think the problem with those BB captoes (stylistically, anyway) is the cap is too small in proportion to the rest of the shoe. It should be further back by about another width of the broguing.

 

@burgerkong, where in the US are you getting SL shoes? I'll be interested to read your review of them when you do get some. They were first on my list of wholecuts before Loding, but based on the timing I needed to have a serviceable pair of shoes for, I decided I wasn't willing to take the risk on sizing with shipping from/to France. 

 

 

I agree, when compared to my Strands, you can see that the cap differs by about 1/2". I'm shipping the SL to the border and picking them up on the way back from Buffalo. A local member played (and lost) the sizing lottery on a couple pairs of Meermins, so I'm not sure I even want to go forward with the SL's, which sucks.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by scatterbrain View Post
 

Quality post. :thumbs-up:

 

The Loading looks a lot more elegant. I think the cap toe on the AE is too short, but is the cap toe on the Loding too long? Do you get creases on the cap when you bend down to tie your shoe?

 

 

Nope, I don't. Took some more pics which I'll add to the initial post. They crease in similar spots to my Strands, which already has a weird creasing due to how the cap toe is sewn on. You can also see what I meant by OK leather quality - the left and right shoe have vamps made from different parts of the hide. The left shoe creases beautifully, whereas the right isn't as nice.

 

 

 

 

 

A shot of the Fifth Avenues flexing:

 

 

Also, more evidence of cost cutting (or perhaps they weren't able to channel the rubber half sole, who knows): standard AE Strands have channeled stitching.

 

 

Brendan

post #2993 of 4642

@burgerkong actually now that I looked closely, the toe cap on your BB is very short indeed. If you look at the BB plain captoe that I posted, mine have the toe cap about the same as the Strands. Given the error in stitching under the soles, you might want to check with BB again if there is any QC problem here. 

post #2994 of 4642
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Originally Posted by nqtri View Post

@burgerkong
 actually now that I looked closely, the toe cap on your BB is very short indeed. If you look at the BB plain captoe that I posted, mine have the toe cap about the same as the Strands. Given the error in stitching under the soles, you might want to check with BB again if there is any QC problem here. 

I googled and it seems that Fifth Avenues have a retarted cap length, regardless of whether they're BB branded or AE branded.

Case in point:

AppleMark
post #2995 of 4642
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Originally Posted by burgerkong View Post

I googled and it seems that Fifth Avenues have a retarted cap length, regardless of whether they're BB branded or AE branded.

Case in point:

AppleMark

I had an AE Fifth Ave before and sold it because of the short cap toe and its relative inelegance compared to something like Carmina though I'm smitten by these John Lobb as well

post #2996 of 4642
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I had an AE Fifth Ave before and sold it because of the short cap toe and its relative inelegance compared to something like Carmina though I'm smitten by these John Lobb as well


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post #2997 of 4642

By the way, you can now find some sick deals from Gilt (duty-free and free shipping to Canada for over $100 or sometimes extra 30% off). I guess it's easier now for Canadians after Hudson's Bay took over the site. Brands include Loake 1880, Harrys of London etc.

post #2998 of 4642
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I also really like the EG on the 82 last; it's a hard life I know. Maybe I should just stick to watches at least the secondary market is a lot more liquid than for shoes and clothes without losing your shirt on sales.
post #2999 of 4642

On that subject, I have to say Loake`s 1880 are by far stiffer than AE, though I do prefer the esthetic of the pair I got. Loding are about as stiff, and the creasing on mine is rather unfortunate.

 

There really is no magic bullet at this price point, but to be realistic, they`re all infinitely better than cheaper alternatives. I've been running with two pairs of AEs for three years now and they look as good as new, and the Lodings are looking pretty good after 6 months. 

 

Worst pair of shoes I've ever purchased were a set of Canalis (thankfully heavily discounted). They were clunky, dried up incredibly fast and creased worse than any of the the shoes mentioned above. Jok did some miracle work and got me a few more months out of them but they're past the point of no return now. 

post #3000 of 4642
I had the fifth ave as well. I sold it because well to me it wasn't a good looking shoe.

However all my other AE shoes I'm perfectly fine with. If you're going after perfection then AE shouldn't be on your radar. If you want "budget" shoes that will last and is of quality (subjective quality) then AE is fine.

I've had no issues so far buying AE. Since I"m a cheap ass I can look past certain short falls that come with buying a AE shoe.icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gifbiggrin.gif:slayer:
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